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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / February 2007

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bainbridge215@verizon.net - 01 Feb 2007 21:32 GMT
I have a 1979 ford F 150 with a 302 .I have Newer H.O. parts heads
etc.Can I put the heads and the cam  out of H.O. motor. In the older
302 if I change the firing order.
Ford Tech - 01 Feb 2007 22:25 GMT
>I have a 1979 ford F 150 with a 302 .I have Newer H.O. parts heads
> etc.Can I put the heads and the cam  out of H.O. motor. In the older
> 302 if I change the firing order.

According to this article:
http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/What_is_the_firing_order_for_a_1983_Ford_F-150_V8 ,
you should be able to.  Although I cant speak of the validity of this
article, maybe someone else can.

Ford Tech
Spdloader - 01 Feb 2007 23:17 GMT
The cam dictates the firing order in that swap.

Spdloader

>I have a 1979 ford F 150 with a 302 .I have Newer H.O. parts heads
> etc.Can I put the heads and the cam  out of H.O. motor. In the older
> 302 if I change the firing order.
Spdloader - 02 Feb 2007 00:06 GMT
.....also, I was thinking but not sure that the HO heads on a 302 HO or
Boss, were Cleveland, but I'm not sure.

The Windsor heads and cam work very, very well on the 302, as do the 289
heads.

Good luck,

Spdloader

> The cam dictates the firing order in that swap.
>
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>> etc.Can I put the heads and the cam  out of H.O. motor. In the older
>> 302 if I change the firing order.
bainbridge215@verizon.net - 02 Feb 2007 22:39 GMT
> .....also, I was thinking but not sure that the HO heads on a 302 HO or
> Boss, were Cleveland, but I'm not sure.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >> etc.Can I put the heads and the cam  out of H.O. motor. In the older
> >> 302 if I change the firing order.

so all I should have to do is change the cam and put 85 H.O.  heads on
the 79 302 truck motor  change the firing order .and it should run
better then the stock 302. in 79 I think is was rated at 145 HP does
any body know what kind of HP gain I am looking at her ballparked. the
85 HO cam is a roller do I have to use roller lifters in the truck 302
or change rods.
Spdloader - 02 Feb 2007 23:17 GMT
"Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>> .....also, I was thinking but not sure that the HO heads on a 302 HO or
>> Boss, were Cleveland, but I'm not sure.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> 85 HO cam is a roller do I have to use roller lifters in the truck 302
> or change rods.

Yes, provided it's from a 302 HO. Be sure to measure your rods, and, yes a
roller cam will work provided it's for that specific motor, but there are a
lot of if's. I can't say for sure with this limited information. You'll need
a better timing chain setup too.
The '79 truck motor came with flat-top pistons, and was / is a good motor
for a buildup. Pay attention also to where the dipstick goes. On some it
goes into the block, some into the side of the pan, and on some into the
front timing cover. This plays a big part in answering will the block work
in your application or not. Plan on it being a very thirsty engine.

Spdloader
bainbridge215@verizon.net - 02 Feb 2007 23:42 GMT
> "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
> >> .....also, I was thinking but not sure that the HO heads on a 302 HO or
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>
> Spdloader

Do you think I would be better off getting a regular towing or pulling
cam for the truck with the orginal firing order and made for lifters
and not use the 85 H.O. cam just use the heads off the mustang.
Spdloader - 03 Feb 2007 00:58 GMT
>> "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> .....also, I was thinking but not sure that the HO heads on a 302 HO
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> cam for the truck with the orginal firing order and made for lifters
> and not use the 85 H.O. cam just use the heads off the mustang.

That depends on what you plan on using it for. A towing cam doesn't make a
whole lot of difference in the 302, from experience.
Decide what you NEED the engine to do, then build it from there. Plus, the
more radical the buildup, the shorter the expected life span of the motor.
You might be better off with a lower (higher numerically) ring and pinion
swap in the rear end, if you're looking to breathe a little life into it's
response and take off.
Spdloader
Jennifer Naples - 16 Feb 2007 19:44 GMT
actually yes, its the same concept of  changing the 350 timing and
getting more power out of it but be careful what cam u pick.  Lunati
makes a hell of a cam.
 
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