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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / April 2007

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87 F150 Hard to Shift.

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go_drastc@yahoo.com - 03 Apr 2007 17:52 GMT
OK, I've got an 87 F150 with a 4.9L engine, 4 speed manual
transmission.  Lately, the sucker has been really hard to shift and I
mean really hard!  Does it have a hydraulic clutch or is there a
cable.  In either case is it possible to adjust it? If hydraulic, can
you add fluid to the master cylinder and what type does it take? What
can I do?
Steve Barker - 03 Apr 2007 18:58 GMT
You probably have the typical firewall failure around the clutch master
cylinder.  Also, this is caused by lack of lube on the clutch fork.  Inspect
the firewall around the clutch master cylinder, repair as needed, (there is
a kit) and yank the clutch fork out and lube the ball pivot area.
Reassemble all parts, bleed the clutch and you should be good to go.
Another possibility is that you are low on fluid in the clutch master
cylinder.  If this is the case, then either the master or slave is leaking.
Replace both AND the plastic line.

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> OK, I've got an 87 F150 with a 4.9L engine, 4 speed manual
> transmission.  Lately, the sucker has been really hard to shift and I
> mean really hard!  Does it have a hydraulic clutch or is there a
> cable.  In either case is it possible to adjust it? If hydraulic, can
> you add fluid to the master cylinder and what type does it take? What
> can I do?
go_drastc@yahoo.com - 03 Apr 2007 19:08 GMT
OK, I'll check that out and let you know.
thanks.

On Apr 3, 10:58 am, "Steve Barker" <ichasetra...@some.yahoo.com>
wrote:
> You probably have the typical firewall failure around the clutch master
> cylinder.  Also, this is caused by lack of lube on the clutch fork.  Inspect
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SnoMan - 03 Apr 2007 19:10 GMT
>OK, I've got an 87 F150 with a 4.9L engine, 4 speed manual
>transmission.  Lately, the sucker has been really hard to shift and I
>mean really hard!  Does it have a hydraulic clutch or is there a
>cable.  In either case is it possible to adjust it? If hydraulic, can
>you add fluid to the master cylinder and what type does it take? What
>can I do?

Hard to shift how? Does it feel like clutch is not releasing or is it
tranny itself?
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go_drastc@yahoo.com - 03 Apr 2007 19:31 GMT
Hard to shift in that I push in the clutch and with great force, I
can  up shift to the next gear.... If I'm lucky.

> >OK, I've got an 87 F150 with a 4.9L engine, 4 speed manual
> >transmission.  Lately, the sucker has been really hard to shift and I
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> TheSnoMan.com
SnoMan - 04 Apr 2007 00:41 GMT
>Hard to shift in that I push in the clutch and with great force, I
>can  up shift to the next gear.... If I'm lucky.

Is it clashing gears doing it?
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go_drastc@yahoo.com - 04 Apr 2007 02:26 GMT
Only when putting it into reverse do the gears clash/clunk.  I checked
the fluid level in the master cylinder. It was down a bit. Added  to
it.  I haven't had a chance to give it a try, partly because of time
and partly because I don't want the sucker to stop shifting altogether
while tesiting it, especially since its at home right now. I know I'll
have to "be brave" and try it out.

> >Hard to shift in that I push in the clutch and with great force, I
> >can  up shift to the next gear.... If I'm lucky.
>
> Is it clashing gears doing it?
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> TheSnoMan.com
Steve Barker - 04 Apr 2007 02:45 GMT
If you can't push that clutch clear to the floor with two or three fingers,
then it is binding up at the fork.  And I'll bet a daylight donut your
firewall is flexing at the clutch master cylinder.

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> Only when putting it into reverse do the gears clash/clunk.  I checked
> the fluid level in the master cylinder. It was down a bit. Added  to
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>> TheSnoMan.com
go_drastc@yahoo.com - 04 Apr 2007 03:23 GMT
I can actually push the clutch to the floor no problem.  I checked the
firewall flex as mentioned and it is not flexing.

> If you can't push that clutch clear to the floor with two or three fingers,
> then it is binding up at the fork.  And I'll bet a daylight donut your
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SnoMan - 04 Apr 2007 13:26 GMT
>I can actually push the clutch to the floor no problem.  I checked the
>firewall flex as mentioned and it is not flexing.

When is the last time you checked or changed the transmisson
fluid/lube?  Many neglect this.
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RCE - 04 Apr 2007 20:09 GMT
>>I can actually push the clutch to the floor no problem.  I checked the
>>firewall flex as mentioned and it is not flexing.
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> TheSnoMan.com

Years ago I made the mistake of taking an '87 Ranger to be serviced at Jiffy
Lube while on a long distance trip.

In addition to the oil/filter change, they recommended changing the
transmission lube because it had just turned 50k miles.

I stupidly said, "OK".

They drained it and filled it up with 90 weight gear lube.  The manual
transmission (made by Mazda) called for automatic transmission fluid.

Talk about hard to shift!

RCE
go_drastc@yahoo.com - 05 Apr 2007 03:19 GMT
> >I can actually push the clutch to the floor no problem.  I checked the
> >firewall flex as mentioned and it is not flexing.
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> TheSnoMan.com

Well I thought that it may be a fluid issue so, I have changed the
tranny fluid.  Still the same.  I'm starting to think that its either
the master cylinder or the slave cylinder.  Its almost like the clutch
doesn't get pushed in quite enough.  Can you adjust a hydraulic clutch
at all?
 
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