Hi folks
Thanks again for all the help on my previous thread. My truck still
runs like crud, though I now see a pattern which may help.
Truck is a 96 F150 with a straight 6, fuel injected. Symptom is it
starts fine when cold, and actually runs OK until it gets to operating
temp. Once at temp, the engine stumbles badly when I give it more than
1/2 pedal on the accelerator. More run time, and almost any gas makes
it run like it's on 5 cylinders. Restarting when hot is almost
impossible, but a cold restart is fine.
Here's what I've done so far:
Replaced - plugs, air filter, oil, fuel filter, cap, rotor.
Removed and sprayed down 5 injectors, replaced one because my father in
law broke it (long story)
Checked vacuum at the brake booster port on the upper intake manifold.
Reading very steady 20 at idle, accel drops to about 5 and quickly
rebounds back to 20. When I hold a higher RPM it drops very little. I
don't have a tach, but I estimate the RPM to be around my shift point.
Tried various points, higher the RPM, less vacuum. But the lowest it
gets to is about 18-19.
Vacuum readings seem to rule out clogged exhaust, though I may be mistaken.
I also pulled the throttle body and cleaned the heck out of it. Used
1/2 bottle of SeaFoam cleaned through PCV hose, let sit about 10 minutes
and ran it out at idle. Repeated again, this time letting sit for
several hours.
Codes - I only have the original list of codes. They list
All O2 sensors reading a lean condition
Crankshaft Position Sensor not working. (I missed this one before)
Misfire cylinder 1
Can the crank position sensor be causing this? I don't even know what
this would do in this vehicle, as I have a conventional distributor with
rotor.
I'm at a loss as to what to change next, though maybe I should be
replacing the other five injectors. The hot vs. cold conditions aren't
making sense to me though...
Thanks,
-ben
Spdloader - 08 Jun 2007 19:16 GMT
Does it "chug" black smoke when it's running rough?
Spdloader
Ben Snyder - 08 Jun 2007 19:20 GMT
> Does it "chug" black smoke when it's running rough?
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> Spdloader
From what I can see, no. But it's hard to tell because I wasn't
looking for it... I will take it for a run later until it runs badly,
then will look again.
What would the black smoke indicate? I know it would be running rich,
but in terms of a cause?
-ben
Spdloader - 08 Jun 2007 19:51 GMT
>> Does it "chug" black smoke when it's running rough?
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> -ben
IF it is chugging or smoking, the manifold air temperature sensor/intake air
temperature sensor (I forget which one it's called on a Ford) can go bad and
tell the computer it's -20 below outside. This richens the mix, and will
cause all the symptoms you are describing, but usually there is some black
(unburned fuel) smoke as well as black or foul-looking plugs.
Spdloader
Ben Snyder - 08 Jun 2007 19:59 GMT
>>> Does it "chug" black smoke when it's running rough?
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> Spdloader
Ah, ok. The plugs looked fine when I replaced them.
-ben
Spdloader - 08 Jun 2007 20:20 GMT
>>>> Does it "chug" black smoke when it's running rough?
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> -ben
Adversely, the sensor can go the other way, and make the system run lean.
Not impossible, but unusual.
Spdloader
Ben Snyder - 08 Jun 2007 19:31 GMT
Quick addition - alldatadiy.com indicates that my truck has a Crankshaft
Fluctuation Sensor - it reads pulses from the rotating crankshaft and
registers misfires. Maybe this is what the OBDII code is trying to day
is faulty?
OBDII code is P0385
-ben
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Ben Snyder - 11 Jun 2007 15:17 GMT
UPDATE - Replaced all fuel injectors with new. Runs maybe 70-80% better
now. Vac was testing fine until I replaced these, now I'm dropping as
low as 14-15 at RPMs higher than idle.
Front cat looks clogged, maybe up to 50% clogged. Not good. Rear
*looks* fine. I plan on testing with them out later today, if this is
the problem then one or two new cats will be on the way.
-ben
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