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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / June 2007

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Front tank gas gauge not reading level

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Jim G - 22 Jun 2007 20:34 GMT
1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
the rear tank, the needle registers the correct amount of gas.

What do I check?
My Name Is Nobody - 22 Jun 2007 20:49 GMT
> 1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
> the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
> the rear tank, the needle registers the correct amount of gas.
>
> What do I check?

Sounds as if the sending unit in the tank is bad.  They are not cheap (on
the order of a few hundred bucks if you can get one from Ford) or easy to
change.  You could hope that it is simply a bad connection between the
switch and the sending unit, but it is not likely.  Ford fuel sending unit
failures are quite common.
Jim G - 22 Jun 2007 21:28 GMT
Could it be that the float (if there is a float) has a hole and fills with
gas? Or could it be a broken wire?

"If the dark blue/yellow, or yellow/light blue could be either, at the
pump/sender assembly is grounded, it will peg the fuel gauge. Power goes
through the gauge to and through the sending unit and then to ground. If the
wire is broken, the gauge will read EMPTY and if it is shorted, it will read
FULL. If you unplug the pump/sender and the gauge still reads FULL, you have
a shorted wire or a bad dash board fuel gauge." (from
http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl863c.htm)

>> 1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
>> the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> switch and the sending unit, but it is not likely.  Ford fuel sending unit
> failures are quite common.
Jim G - 22 Jun 2007 22:16 GMT
A new Motorcraft fuel sending switch is either $40 or $50 in the aftermarket
depending upon the size of the midship tank (17, 18, or 19 gal, I haven't
checked yet to see what I have). Unfortunately, replacing it requires
removing the tank. I just replaced the rear tank a couple of months ago. Fun
with gas.

> Could it be that the float (if there is a float) has a hole and fills with
> gas? Or could it be a broken wire?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> switch and the sending unit, but it is not likely.  Ford fuel sending
>> unit failures are quite common.
Whitelightning - 23 Jun 2007 00:16 GMT
>A new Motorcraft fuel sending switch is either $40 or $50 in the
>aftermarket depending upon the size of the midship tank (17, 18, or 19 gal,
>I haven't checked yet to see what I have). Unfortunately, replacing it
>requires removing the tank. I just replaced the rear tank a couple of
>months ago. Fun with gas.

The logical solution since there are two tanks is run it untill the tank you
have to drop is empty.

Whitelightning
Jim G - 23 Jun 2007 20:02 GMT
Is it easier to pull off the bed than to drop the tank? If I can pull the
bed, I don't have to wait to empty the midship tank.

>>A new Motorcraft fuel sending switch is either $40 or $50 in the
>>aftermarket depending upon the size of the midship tank (17, 18, or 19
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>
> Whitelightning
Jeff Strickland - 23 Jun 2007 23:25 GMT
Drive the truck until the tank it empty. Nothing is easier than that.

> Is it easier to pull off the bed than to drop the tank? If I can pull the
> bed, I don't have to wait to empty the midship tank.
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>>
>> Whitelightning
My Name Is Nobody - 24 Jun 2007 07:18 GMT
Not on an old used truck.  I don't think you would get all the hardware off
in serviceable condition, and would be replacing it.
I'm sure it would be a much bigger pain in the a.s.

> Is it easier to pull off the bed than to drop the tank? If I can pull the
> bed, I don't have to wait to empty the midship tank.
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>>
>> Whitelightning
Steve Barker - 25 Jun 2007 05:05 GMT
no.

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> Is it easier to pull off the bed than to drop the tank? If I can pull the
> bed, I don't have to wait to empty the midship tank.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Whitelightning
Steve Barker - 25 Jun 2007 05:08 GMT
You don't have to drop it completely to get the sender out.  Get the truck
up off the ground safely, so you can sit up under it.  Then remove the drive
shaft, and remove the front tank strap completely,  then loosen the rear
strap until the tank drops enough to get the lines off and remove it from
the tank.  There, no draining, and no fuss.  I've done dozens of them this
way.  BE sure to have some compressed air to clean off the area around the
sender real good so a bunch of sh.t doesn't fall in.

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> Is it easier to pull off the bed than to drop the tank? If I can pull the
> bed, I don't have to wait to empty the midship tank.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Whitelightning
My Name Is Nobody - 22 Jun 2007 22:42 GMT
> Could it be that the float (if there is a float) has a hole and fills with
> gas? Or could it be a broken wire?

I have never seen a failed float, or wire for that matter, but have had 8 or
9 failed sending units.  I still have one truck with two bad ones, that will
go to it's new owner that way, because fixing it is not worth the cost or
trouble to me.

> "If the dark blue/yellow, or yellow/light blue could be either, at the
> pump/sender assembly is grounded, it will peg the fuel gauge. Power goes
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> switch and the sending unit, but it is not likely.  Ford fuel sending
>> unit failures are quite common.
Jeff Strickland - 23 Jun 2007 04:29 GMT
> Could it be that the float (if there is a float) has a hole and fills with
> gas? Or could it be a broken wire?

That's always a possibility -- the float filling with gas and sinking. It
could be a borken wire, but my money is on the float or the sending unit.

I have a BMW that had this sort of problem, and the trouble turned out to be
a very dirty constact strip on the sending unit. I cleaned the strip with
contact cleaner and a business card until the card did not turn black
anymore.

In my BMW, all I had to do was take the back seat cushion out and open the
tank through the floor of the car. I also have a '95 Bronco, and I had to
drop the tank to service the stuff inside. If I recall, the Bronco did not
have the capacity to clean the contact strip, but I did not pay close
attention to that because my fault was the fuel pump that had died.

No matter what is wrong, you will need to drop the tank to look inside.
Steve Barker - 25 Jun 2007 05:09 GMT
The floats are a composite type of material.  Nothing to fill.

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>> Could it be that the float (if there is a float) has a hole and fills
>> with gas? Or could it be a broken wire?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> No matter what is wrong, you will need to drop the tank to look inside.
Jeff Strickland - 25 Jun 2007 15:53 GMT
Back in the olden days of our '65 F100 -- where the gas tank resided in the
space behind the seat with the vehicle occupants enjoying the smells of a
freshly filled tank -- the float was a brass bulb that commonly got a hole
or two eaten into it. But I digress.

The sending unit has failed ...

> The floats are a composite type of material.  Nothing to fill.
Jeff Strickland - 23 Jun 2007 04:23 GMT
You don't check anything, you buy and install a new fuel level sending unit
in the front gas tank, OR learn how to do the math.

If the tank holds 15 gallons, and you get 15 mpg, then your range is 15 x
15, or 225 miles on the front tank. ALWAYS fill that tank and note the
odometer reading. In 225 miles, give or take, you will need to switch to the
rear tank and make plans to visit the gas station soon.

> 1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
> the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
> the rear tank, the needle registers the correct amount of gas.
>
> What do I check?
Steve Barker - 25 Jun 2007 05:05 GMT
front tank sending unit.

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> 1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
> the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
> the rear tank, the needle registers the correct amount of gas.
>
> What do I check?
Steve Barker - 25 Jun 2007 05:05 GMT
Some wrong replies in there.  The sending unit can be purchased separately
from the pump assembly and costs about $12.

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> 1992 F150, 6 cyl. I just filled the front tank to the top and notice that
> the gauge in the dash does not register any fuel in the tank. Switched to
> the rear tank, the needle registers the correct amount of gas.
>
> What do I check?

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