I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
work and then they start to work, the pedal goes down a little bit
then start to grab, or when I start braking (braking is working) then
for a second it feels like I have no brakes then they start working
again. This all in the same push of the pedal, no pumping. It just
feels like there is no braking, then it comes back. I can feel the
pedal go down, but then the brakes work.
No fluid leaks and I believe the pads are fine.
My question is, is this a problem with the master cylinder or
something else I need to look at before replacing the master
cylinder?
Is this a common problem on these trucks? This is my first non-GM
vehicle ever (been driving for 22 years) and have had the truck for
almost 2 years and love it.
N8N - 31 Jul 2007 14:42 GMT
> I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
> Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
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> vehicle ever (been driving for 22 years) and have had the truck for
> almost 2 years and love it.
This is a long shot, but I used to have an old BMW with the exact same
system. That car had a "hydroboost" type brake booster instead of the
vacuum booster most commonly used, and the problem was that the
hydraulic accumulator was shot.
nate
lugnut - 31 Jul 2007 15:20 GMT
>I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
>Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
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>vehicle ever (been driving for 22 years) and have had the truck for
>almost 2 years and love it.
I had a similar problem with my Crown Vic. A new booster
fixed it right up.
Lugnut
Gary Ober - 06 Aug 2007 02:55 GMT
> I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
> Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
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> vehicle ever (been driving for 22 years) and have had the truck for
> almost 2 years and love it.
I had a problem with the MC bypassing. First pedal hit went flat to the
floor. Second hit full brakes. It did it twice to me before I went and
replaced the MC. I have not heard of it since my 1980 E150 van.
Lee - 07 Aug 2007 13:03 GMT
> I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
> Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
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> vehicle ever (been driving for 22 years) and have had the truck for
> almost 2 years and love it.
I just wanted to update what I have found so far. Basically I have
eliminated the master cylinder and brake booster as the problem. It
looks like my ABS was coming on intermittently when the brake is
pressed. I disconnected the ABS EBCM so the ABS will not work at all,
and my brake issue went away. Now I need to figure out why my ABS
would come on intermittently on dry, clear pavement. It is coming on
when it should not. I am thinking it may be one of the sensors is bad
(I hope because even a rebuilt EBCM is expensive.)
Anyone see either the front or rear sensors go bad to the point where
the ABS would activate intermittently when it is not supposed to
during braking?
IYM - 07 Aug 2007 16:08 GMT
OK...I haven't played/looked at the ABS on my F150, but I had the same
problem as you with the ABS on my T-Bird, except that after the first
braking and pedal issue, the ABS light would come on detecting a malfunction
and deactivate the ABS system. Now in the T-Bird ('93), the setup was a
small sensor aimed at basically gear teeth that spun on the hub. The sensor
more or less sent info to the computer that determined the speed, and if
that wheel was turning based on more or less by how quick the sensors
signals were coming back through the gear teeth space as it turned. The
computer took the info from all 4 sensors and how much pressure your
applying to the brake and made it's calculations. What had apparently
happened was that debris or a rock got kicked up into the gear teeth and
bent the sensor when it came around so that it wasn't aimed at the gear
teeth anymore. All I did was bend it back to where it was supposed to be,
by referring to the other sensor on the passenger side and it fixed the
problem for $0 and few minutes. I'm sure the truck system is set up
different as I'm sure they've improved the ABS system since then (plus I
can't imagine that they'd expose the sensors like that of off road
vehicles), but I'd pretty much guess it's an issue with one of the sensors.
I'm sorry I can't help too much further other than see what info you can dig
up on the sensors....
IYM
>> I have a 2001 F150 XLT SuperCab 4x4 with 4 wheel disc brakes.
>> Sometimes when I press the brake pedal, for a second the brakes do not
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> the ABS would activate intermittently when it is not supposed to
> during braking?