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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / October 2007

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Ford Windstar Center Console

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Jeff Strickland - 26 Oct 2007 03:20 GMT
My brother in law has a Windstar with a clicking noise coming from behind
the radio. The noise has to do with the Life Support system -- it is the
thing that controls mixing hot and cold to arrive at the desired temp. The
noise IS NOT the flow control that directs air to the various vents, and it
changes pitch with changes in the temp selector.

He managed to take the upper bezel off and we can look inside the center
console and put our hand onto whatever the source of the clicking noise is,
but we must remove the radio to gain access. We can't figure out what is
holding the radio in, but our best guess is that the bezel that runs from
the bottom cubby hole to the top of the console has to come off to get the
radio and life support system control out.

We do see an important-looking connector that has nothing to plug into, my
guess is that the life support control or the radio has a hole that is
looking to be filled. The connector is square, or very nearly square, and
has two rows of 6 or 7 pins that are very small (fine). We can't see where
the connector goes, but if the radio was removed, I think we would find its
home. The radio feels like it has a hole on the back, but I am not certain
of this and the radio seems to have all of its features available to us. The
wire is not very long, so wherever it goes is in the vicinity of the radio
and life support control box.

We are going to start turning every screw in sight, but if you know the
actual screws to turn, you could save us time and effort.

Thanks.

PS -- and way off topic
I have Fox News on the TV, and they are talking to a couple that lived in
Ranco Bernardo. The home was destroyed by the fire, but the amazing thing is
that the house looks to be a golf course home where the property is very
narrow and long. The neighbor's home is perhaps 12 ft away, and both homes
have the garage access on the same side -- one home has the garage on the
right side, the neighbor's house has its garage on the left. The house that
burned down is almost unrecognizable as a dwelling unit, the home next door
has a few singed bushes. These people store the trash cans in the side yard
on the garage-side of the house. The house that is still standing has its
trash cans, and they are barely even melted on one edge. The behavior of the
fire is very strange.
Whitelightning - 26 Oct 2007 03:58 GMT
Are there four small holes one in each cornor of the radio face?

> PS -- and way off topic
> I have Fox News on the TV, and they are talking to a couple that lived in
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> standing has its trash cans, and they are barely even melted on one edge.
> The behavior of the fire is very strange.

MMM arson perhaps?
Whitelightning
Jeff Strickland - 26 Oct 2007 17:43 GMT
> Are there four small holes one in each cornor of the radio face?

Yes. I discovered that these holes have spring-clips inside of them. I can
make the clips release, but the top of the radio has a tab that seems to be
striking the bezel, this is why I want to take the bezel off.

Please tell me there is another solution ... Or, that the bezel comes off by
removing the ashtray and the cubby hole at the bottom of the console.
Matt Macchiarolo - 26 Oct 2007 22:26 GMT
>> Are there four small holes one in each cornor of the radio face?
>
> Yes. I discovered that these holes have spring-clips inside of them. I can
> make the clips release, but the top of the radio has a tab that seems to
> be striking the bezel, this is why I want to take the bezel off.

Go to your nearest auto sound shop (Best Buy will work) and buy a Ford radio
removal kit. It will come with two U-shaped tools, which you insert into the
holes on the face of the radio; this will unlock the tab and allow you to
slide the radio out. On my Excursion it will come out without removing the
dash, yours might be the same.

Regarding the fires you mentioned having seen on Faux News, that wasn't the
one that they said this week that Al Qaida set, was it?
Jeff Strickland - 27 Oct 2007 02:37 GMT
>>> Are there four small holes one in each cornor of the radio face?
>>
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> Regarding the fires you mentioned having seen on Faux News, that wasn't
> the one that they said this week that Al Qaida set, was it?

No, I did not see the segment where anybody said it was a terrorist attack.
I've heard the rumor that it was a terrorist, and I've heard that somebody
reported there was such a rumor going around. I have heard that Fox News
reported there was a rumor, but I've not heard the report.

What I did see was a factual report of what has happened to people by people
that had it happen to them.
Jim Downey - 31 Oct 2007 02:36 GMT
Did you ever figure out what the cause was?  My 2000 Windstar does
the same thing.

> My brother in law has a Windstar with a clicking noise coming from behind
> the radio. The noise has to do with the Life Support system -- it is the
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> trash cans, and they are barely even melted on one edge. The behavior of the
> fire is very strange.
Jeff Strickland - 31 Oct 2007 20:28 GMT
No. My b-i-l put the car back together without doing the repair.

> Did you ever figure out what the cause was?  My 2000 Windstar does
> the same thing.
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>> the
>> fire is very strange.

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