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99 Ranger synchronizer assembly locked up

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Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names - 30 Mar 2008 01:47 GMT
Several days ago daughter was driving her 99 Ranger -- 3.0L V6, 5-
speed, 4WD, 92K miles, serviced regulalry, driven carefully -- when
oil pressure went to zero and check engine light came on.  She shut it
down immediately and had it towed to dealer.

They reported no oil pressure (we knew that) and suggested a new
engine ($800).  I told them to pull the pan and look at the oil and
oil pump and to pull a couple of main bearings look at the mains and
the crank.  They pissed and moaned but did it.

Found:
-- three teeth broken off synchronizer shaft (this would have caused
the oil pump to stop pumping)
-- minor scoring on mains
-- a few metal filings and three broken teeth in the crankcase.

I told them to replace the synchronizer, check the oil pump, install a
magnetic drain plug, and see what happens.  They did, we picked up the
truck Monday and my son drove it all week -- no noise, oil pressure
good, full power, nothing apparently wrong with it.  Changed the oil
today, no sign of metal shavings in the oil.

The dealer gave me the old synchronizer assembly.  The synch shaft
runs through a housing and it looks to me as though the shaft should
turn inside the house -- it doesn't -- shaft is completely frozen in
the housing -- appears that that's why the teeth broke off -- synch
shaft froze, whatever drives the synch shaft kept turning and broke
off the teeth.

Any ideas as to why this thing would sieze up?

Thanks.
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 07 Apr 2008 17:28 GMT
On Mar 29, 8:47 pm, "Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names"
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Several days ago daughter was driving her 99 Ranger -- 3.0L V6, 5-
> speed, 4WD, 92K miles, serviced regulalry, driven carefully -- when
> oil pressure went to zero and check engine light came on.  She shut it
> down immediately and had it towed to dealer.

Good for you!  You must be proud.

> They reported no oil pressure (we knew that) and suggested a new
> engine ($800).  

$800 for a new engine, and at the dealer?  Holy crap.  I should just
stop taking care of the engine in my 98, if they're that inexpensive
to have replaced.  I paid well over that for the engine, and over that
again for the install, recently, on a 2002 Grand Am.

> I told them to pull the pan and look at the oil and
> oil pump and to pull a couple of main bearings look at the mains and
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> good, full power, nothing apparently wrong with it.  Changed the oil
> today, no sign of metal shavings in the oil.

How'd all that labor compare to the $800 initial quote?

> The dealer gave me the old synchronizer assembly.  The synch shaft
> runs through a housing and it looks to me as though the shaft should
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Any ideas as to why this thing would sieze up?

None, but I'd be curious if you figure it out.
Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names - 08 Apr 2008 23:48 GMT
On Apr 7, 12:28 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 8:47 pm, "Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names"
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> None, but I'd be curious if you figure it out.

Hmmm.  Well, no, not exactly $800 for a new engine -- more like
$4,800.00  -- $4,780.00 to be exact.  Sorry for the typo.

I still haven't figured out what caused it to seize up but my daughter
has been driving it for two weeks now without a problem.  Keeping our
fingers crossed.
fixizin - 09 Apr 2008 10:03 GMT
>> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Several days ago daughter was driving her 99 Ranger -- 3.0L V6, 5-
>> > speed, 4WD, 92K miles, serviced regulalry, driven carefully -- when
>> > oil pressure went to zero and check engine light came on.  

Dang, that's my exact truck... scary stuff, although I now have an OBD-
II scanner... any idea what code it spit out?

Have you had any problems with the 5-speed tranny?  Mine has a dicey
synchro on 3rd gear, and I once saw a TSB on that issue... need to
follow-up on that.

...snip...

> Hmmm.  Well, no, not exactly $800 for a new engine -- more like
> $4,800.00  -- $4,780.00 to be exact.  Sorry for the typo.

D'OH!!... gave several older truck owners a woodie... LOL. ;')
Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names - 09 Apr 2008 11:50 GMT
> >> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Several days ago daughter was driving her 99 Ranger -- 3.0L V6, 5-
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Dang, that's my exact truck... scary stuff, although I now have an OBD-
> II scanner... any idea what code it spit out?

They didn't check.

> Have you had any problems with the 5-speed tranny?  Mine has a dicey
> synchro on 3rd gear, and I once saw a TSB on that issue... need to
> follow-up on that.

Never had a problem with the transmission on the Ranger.

However -- I have a '97 Mazda B4000  -- 4.0L V-6, 5-speed, 4WD.  I
bought it used with 89,000 miles on it after my Nissan truck was lost
in Hurricane Katrina.  Had to rebuild the transmission in the Mazda
because it got to the point where it almost would not go into 2d gear.

> ...snip...
>
> > Hmmm.  Well, no, not exactly $800 for a new engine -- more like
> > $4,800.00  -- $4,780.00 to be exact.  Sorry for the typo.
>
> D'OH!!... gave several older truck owners a woodie... LOL. ;')
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 09 Apr 2008 14:10 GMT
> >> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Several days ago daughter was driving her 99 Ranger -- 3.0L V6, 5-
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> D'OH!!... gave several older truck owners a woodie... LOL. ;')

I've got the 98, which is also the same truck.  I had a sketchy
synchro for a while, any time I went into 5th it wouldn't come back
out, actually required 2 hands and enough haulin on it that I was
worried about breaking the shift lever, nevermind the synchros.  For
the most part I just drove it as a 4 speed for a couple weeks.  Oddly
enough, a good session of wheeling, much of which was at odd camber,
fixed it right up.  *goes to knock on wood*
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 09 Apr 2008 14:12 GMT
On Apr 8, 6:48 pm, "Kickin' a.s and Takin' Names"
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 12:28 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Hmmm.  Well, no, not exactly $800 for a new engine -- more like
> $4,800.00  -- $4,780.00 to be exact.  Sorry for the typo.

No worries, 4800 sounds a lot better.  I was scratchin my head for a
minute.  $800 for a junkyard engine maybe, but you're going to spend
at least that again to have it installed.  $4800 is more than my truck
is worth, which is what I would expect a dealer to charge to replace
the engine.

> I still haven't figured out what caused it to seize up but my daughter
> has been driving it for two weeks now without a problem.  Keeping our
> fingers crossed.

Good luck!
 
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