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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Trucks / August 2008

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Premature Brake Rotor wear??( '90 E150)

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tom42 - 20 Jul 2008 19:09 GMT
I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago, using
Pep Boys "Prostop" pads & their Chinese rotors.

I'm not new to this, having been driving and repairing E150's for over 20
years, always using "aftermarket" rotors, originally JCWhitney, and in the
past few years Pep Boys. And I always clean the "pin" v-grooves and apply a
tiny bit of DB grease to them. Have never had a problem.

Today I had to fix a flat on the rt front, and noticed the outer pad was
quite worn and the inner somewhat less, and the outer rotor face noticeably
scored.

Is this me, or has Pep Boys gotten a bad or cheaper batch of rotors? Or
brake pads with some crap in them (melamine perhaps??)

Has anyone else had this problem?

Tom G.
Marlin Singer - 21 Jul 2008 00:11 GMT
> I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago, using
> Pep Boys "Prostop" pads & their Chinese rotors.
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>
> Tom G.

Sounds more like a sticking caliper.
Oren - 21 Jul 2008 00:41 GMT
>> I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago, using
>> Pep Boys "Prostop" pads & their Chinese rotors.
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>>
>Sounds more like a sticking caliper.

I'm glad you said that. I did think the same possibility.

They need testing. The OP may have one side stuck.
tom42 - 21 Jul 2008 04:15 GMT
>>> I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago,
>>> using
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>
> They need testing. The OP may have one side stuck.
tom42 - 23 Jul 2008 23:47 GMT
I forgot to mention, this condition existed on both sides.

I had no problem compressing the pistons and then installing new NAPA pads.
Hoses and all looked good. I will keep a close eye on these pads as they
wear.

The brakes feel fine; no pulling to one side or anything else. If I didn't
change the tire, I'd never have noticed.

Thanks, guys, for all the tips.

>>>> I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago,
>>>> using
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>>
>> They need testing. The OP may have one side stuck.
Oren - 23 Jul 2008 23:55 GMT
>I forgot to mention, this condition existed on both sides.
>
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>The brakes feel fine; no pulling to one side or anything else. If I didn't
>change the tire, I'd never have noticed.

It's  me! I would take the truck on a lone/remote road. Accelerate
with a sudden braking.

Just testing...

>Thanks, guys, for all the tips.
>
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>>> They need testing. The OP may have one side stuck.
tom42 - 21 Jul 2008 04:15 GMT
>>> I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago,
>>> using
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> They need testing. The OP may have one side stuck.
lugnut - 21 Jul 2008 15:21 GMT
>I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago, using
>Pep Boys "Prostop" pads & their Chinese rotors.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Tom G.

I have had a number of F & E series over the last 30 years.
All had front brake problems of one sort or another.  Had
more than one with caliper problems.  2 things I would check
to start would be to make sure you have installed the
locking pins in the right direction.  They seem to have a
wide and narrow side after use if not when new.  Reversing a
used pin will add tension and make the caliper more
difficult to slide and release as it should.

Next would be to examine the hoses very carefully for any
indication of damage, bulging of the exterior cover,
cracking or any other defect.  Bulging is an indication that
the inner liner is perferated and leaking which may cause
the fluid to become trapped in the caliper instead of
returning to the MC when the brake is released.  This can
also lead to brake overheating and, darting or pulling when
the brakes are applied.  Depending of your favorite parts
source, new hose are available for under $40US for the pair.
I recommend this anyway if yours are the original hoses.
You may as well throw a new one in the rear while you are at
it.

Make sure the piston is not tight or seized.  Kits are
available to rebuild them down very inexpensively if there
is any doubt.  Inexpensive rebuilt calipers are also
plentiful.  This is the way to go if you are not familiar
with caliper rebuild.  They can be had with steel or
phenolic pistons.  Each has an advantage.  Either can stich
if the dust shield is damage allowing moisture in to cause
bore corrosion.

You should also do a complete flush of the system.  Brake
fluid tends to absorb moisture as it ages which may lead to
internal corrosion of the system which can also cause uneven
cylinder/caliper operation.

Lugnut
JR - 05 Aug 2008 13:56 GMT
>I replaced the rotors and pads on my '90 E150 van about 3 months ago, using
>Pep Boys "Prostop" pads & their Chinese rotors.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Tom G.

I have had an issue with the last 3 E-150's I have driven for work. The rear
brake adjusters have never worked properly in a 94, 01, and now an 03 . So I
find that if I don't manually adjust the rear drums then the front pads take
a beating permaturely. It is a pain to have do that every 3 months or so but
it is small price to pay for such great vans otherwise though. It took me
two sets of front rotors on the 94 to figure it out though as the truck
would stop fine but it sure makes a difference on the wear of the fronts.
 
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