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Bad taknk of gas?

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shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 06:43 GMT
My 1999 F-150 was running fine until i put in some gas today. I drove
it home (about 1/2 mile) with no problems. A few hours later i started
it up, drove about one mile and the truck began to backfire and
sputter continuously. I drove it home but it barely made it. Would a
bad tank of gas cause this? If it is the gas, i hope the station will
repair any damage to the engine.
Old Crow - 24 Oct 2008 10:28 GMT
> My 1999 F-150 was running fine until i put in some gas today. I drove
> it home (about 1/2 mile) with no problems. A few hours later i started
> it up, drove about one mile and the truck began to backfire and
> sputter continuously. I drove it home but it barely made it. Would a
> bad tank of gas cause this? If it is the gas, i hope the station will
> repair any damage to the engine.

Yup, sounds like you got some bad gas.  Just drain the tank and replace with
good gas.
Probably no damage to the engine in a 1/2 mile, but did you keep your
receipt where you filled up?  We had a local station get a load of diesel
dumped into their premium tank and several motorcycle riders(including
myself and my wife)had trouble getting home after filling up there.  They
wouldn't do anything because we didn't have receipts proving we'd bought the
gas there.
Needless to say we don't fill up there anymore.

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'82 FLTC 'Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM

shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 14:38 GMT
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> '61 F-100
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM
I didn't save the receipt because i paid cash. I save it when i use a
credit card. The only proof i have is the lady who took my money. She
may deny or not remember me coming in. I go there regularly for gas
and occasional repairs. I hope there's no damage to the engine. It
sounded bad driving home. Anyway, i'll update as soon as i find out
the problem. Regards.
scrape - 24 Oct 2008 12:45 GMT
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:43:55 -0700 (PDT),
"shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com" <shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>My 1999 F-150 was running fine until i put in some gas today. I drove
>it home (about 1/2 mile) with no problems. A few hours later i started
>it up, drove about one mile and the truck began to backfire and
>sputter continuously. I drove it home but it barely made it. Would a
>bad tank of gas cause this? If it is the gas, i hope the station will
>repair any damage to the engine.

Maybe water in it?  I'd throw a bottle of dry gas in there before
doing anything drastic.
Rowbotth - 24 Oct 2008 14:59 GMT
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:43:55 -0700 (PDT),
> "shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com" <shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com>
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> Maybe water in it?  I'd throw a bottle of dry gas in there before
> doing anything drastic.

I had something like that happen to me a few years ago.  It had been
raining for about a week and after I filled up nothing happened.  The
key turned; the starter spun but nothing fired.  The service station
called in a mechanic and he pumped the tank dry.  Out of I think the 65l
that the Explorer held, 27l were water.

The mechanic told me that draining the tank was not as good as using the
fuel pump (in another 12 V DCC POwer Supply) to pump the tank dry
because if the tank was pumped dry it could be done in place, whereas
draining it meant removing the tank.  And may not get as much of the bad
stuff out.

Anyhow, the station picked up the tab and I never went back there.  But
that did the trick for me.  

Oh, get a new fuel filter too.

H.
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 15:23 GMT
> In article <i9d3g4d156d262aut447s7hbsc630h8...@4ax.com>,
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> H.

I meant to ask if it is the gas, what is the station responsible for
as far as repairs- damage to the injectors, replacement of the fuel
filter as a result of the contaminated gas, etc?
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 17:28 GMT
On Oct 24, 7:23 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > In article <i9d3g4d156d262aut447s7hbsc630h8...@4ax.com>,
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Well here's the update. I talked to the station owner and some of the
mechanics and they said there is no way it could be the gas. They said
the gas is checked everyday for water. I'm thinking if they are sure
the gas comes in uncontaminated, why do they need to check for
conaminants?The owner said i was the only one to complain about the
problem.   I willing to admit it could be just a coincidence, but for
him to say there is absolutely no chance of it being contaminated
makes me boil. I don't know if going to the corp. will help.
letterman@invalid.com - 24 Oct 2008 18:16 GMT
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT),
"shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com" <shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Oct 24, 7:23 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
><shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>him to say there is absolutely no chance of it being contaminated
>makes me boil. I don't know if going to the corp. will help.

Many years ago I managed a gas station.  It's just required policy to
check the gas regularly.  Every day we measured the level in the
tanks, with a long stick.  Then every few days we had to pump some gas
into a container and add a chemical to test for water.  Besides this,
inspectors came on a regular basis, which back then was about once a
month.

I think you more likely have a mechanical problem.  Replace the fuel
filter, test the ignition for a good spark and be sure all plugs are
firing.  Test the fuel injectors, and be sure the fuel pump is pumping
correct pressure.  Of course there are many other possible factors.  A
loose wire or bad ign switch could cause backfiring, or the timing
slipped due to bad belt or chain, or worn distributor, cracked cap,
bad plug wires, etc.

I'd start by changing the fuel filter, and in the process pump a quart
of gas in a clear bottle to look for water (which will settle to the
bottom).  And look for loose plug wires, broken vacuum hoses, etc.

BTW: What is a taknk ?  :)
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 19:02 GMT
On Oct 24, 10:16 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT),
> "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com" <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com>
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HAAAAAAAAAA. Well if i knew what a taknk was, i'd let you know. It's
probably a combination of my careless typing and dyslexia, but i'm
sure you figured it was tank. Anyway, i appreciate  the advice.I'll
have my mechanic look at it next week. Thanks, or is that thaknks!!
Rowbotth - 24 Oct 2008 19:27 GMT
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<a73dae5d-4ddc-4b20-b053-95463a34db3e@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com>,
"shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com" <shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com>
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> On Oct 24, 7:23 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> him to say there is absolutely no chance of it being contaminated
> makes me boil. I don't know if going to the corp. will help.

Then again too, just because they SAY that no-one else ever complained,
that does not necessarily mean it is true.....

Friendship is friendship but business is business.

H.
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2008 21:14 GMT
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They could have had other complaints, but didn't want to share that
with me. I checked to see if that pump was taped off but it wasn't. I
will give them the benefit of the doubt until i have my mechanic check
the tank.
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 27 Oct 2008 21:55 GMT
On Oct 24, 1:14 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Well, it is not a gas problem, however my mechanic has not found the
problem yet. Compression is good, injectors are fine, sensors are
allright. Plugs and wires check out. So i don't know what else it
could be. I'm waiting for him to call back.
shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com - 11 Nov 2008 03:59 GMT
On Oct 27, 12:55 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 1:14 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
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For those of you interested, it turned out to be a broken valve
spring, not a gas problem. It was just a coincidence.
 
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