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Engine misses after rainy night

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Peter W Crisler - 20 Dec 2008 03:52 GMT
2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
have a garage, so the truck is parked outside. After a rainy night, truck
starts, but immediately it runs on maybe 5 cylinders. Let it run to warm up
and dry out for 20 minutes and the missing never stops. It's worse under
load. First time it happened, I drove it 9 miles to work and 9 hours later
drove it home. On the way I bought a bottle of ISO HEET and poured it in
the tank Let it set overnight. Problem went away until the next rainy
night. I have a good sealing gas cap, so I don't think water is getting
into the fuel that way. I still feel like it's an electrical problem, but
the engine is dry and I've checked all the wiring I can and don't see any
things wrong. Anybody got any ideas or solutions?.
Nate Nagel - 20 Dec 2008 04:09 GMT
> 2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
> tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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> the engine is dry and I've checked all the wiring I can and don't see any
> things wrong. Anybody got any ideas or solutions?.

Next time it's damp/rainy, pop the hood before you start it.  I'll bet
you'll see arcing from some ignition components.  IF you can't see it,
mist over the engine with water from a spray bottle (like an old windex
bottle or something)

If it's not that, it might be something on the low voltage side
grounding out when wet, which will be harder to isolate.

nate

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Peter W Crisler - 21 Dec 2008 19:16 GMT
>> 2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
>> tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I
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> nate

The first time the miss fire happened, it was early in the morning, very
little sunlight and I did look at the engine just after it started. I
didn't see any obvious arcing. With my luck, it's your idea about the low
voltage grounding out and being harder to find. Thanks for your ideas.
Shanghai McCoy - 20 Dec 2008 04:11 GMT
> 2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
> tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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> the engine is dry and I've checked all the wiring I can and don't see any
> things wrong. Anybody got any ideas or solutions?.

Guessing... a cracked distributor cap?
Nate Nagel - 20 Dec 2008 14:55 GMT
>> 2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
>> tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I
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> Guessing... a cracked distributor cap?

Did they still use distributors in Y2K?  I was thinking along the same
lines, but perhaps a cracked coil pack housing instead.

nate

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lugnut - 21 Dec 2008 05:49 GMT
>2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
>tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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>the engine is dry and I've checked all the wiring I can and don't see any
>things wrong. Anybody got any ideas or solutions?.

My guess would be bad coil/plug boots allowing water into coils/plugs.

Lugnut
Blue C5 - 23 Dec 2008 13:39 GMT
> >2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
> >tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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>
> Lugnut

I'm with Lugnut.  My Corvette had one bad boot to the coil.  I found
it using a vacuum cleaner hose up to my ear and heard a ticking noise
on #8.  Replaced that wire, the ticking and the missing went away.  It
is a 2000 with 40,000 miles.  I replaced the rest of the wires while I
was at it.  Has not missed since - wet or dry.

Bob Drake, Alex., VA
Blue C5 - 24 Dec 2008 12:45 GMT
> > >2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
> > >tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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>
> > Lugnut

Must be an electrical system gremlin out there.  My wife drives home
and explains that her Seville has a "Service Electrical System"
message in the Information Center.  Oh $%@&%#, there goes another
$500.  She said that she went through a car wash and noticed it after
that.  She also said the traction control would not go on.  I took it
out -  it needed gas.  Pressed the "Reset Indicator" button - message
went away - never came back.  Another lucky stroke.

Bob Drake, Alex, VA
Ford Ranger (Never a Problem!)
Corvette
Seveille
ds549@webtv.net - 21 Dec 2008 16:37 GMT
id try new plug wires first. put dielectric grease  inside the boots
before installing..

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Ricky Forrest - 21 Dec 2008 18:43 GMT
Water leaking from heater hose onto spark plug cap? Plug wires corroded
at connection to spark plug? (COP) Coil on plug connector (wire inside
the boot that connects to COP is only 3.99 at autozone)corroded?

I never looked at a V10 spark plug setup.

> 2000 F250 SD, 53,000 miles, standard cab, 8' bed, 6.8L V10, automatic
> tranny. I bought it new, June, 2000. Problem started early in 2008. I don't
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> the engine is dry and I've checked all the wiring I can and don't see any
> things wrong. Anybody got any ideas or solutions?.
 
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