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Nate Nagel - 22 Dec 2008 19:59 GMT
Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to
be a choice between the Michelin LTX M/S ($105 each) and the Yokohama
Geolandar H/T-S G051 ($85 each) both seem to rate well, are the
Michelins that much better?  Will the Yoks perform OK in occasional
snow?  (the tread pattern looks a little wimpy.)  Anything else I should
be considering?  I took a look at my tires the other day and while I've
got lots of tread left the Michelins on the rear are looking severely
cracked, and who knows how old they are (were on the truck when I bought
it.)  I would like to stay with a LT-type tire as I do occasionally haul
heavy loads.

thanks,

Nate

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IYM - 22 Dec 2008 20:14 GMT
Not sure what year your's is, but I have a set of Pirelli Scropions on my
'99 F150 2WD that are the best I've had on it....Quiet, nice bite on snow,
and really good tread wear....

IYM

> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
> see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to be
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> Nate
Nate Nagel - 22 Dec 2008 20:33 GMT
Which model?  TR suggested the Scorpion STR-A and that did not rate well
in the snow compared to other available tires.  Mine's a 93 with LT
235/75R15 tires.

nate

> Not sure what year your's is, but I have a set of Pirelli Scropions on my
> '99 F150 2WD that are the best I've had on it....Quiet, nice bite on snow,
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>> Nate

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IYM - 23 Dec 2008 20:04 GMT
Mine are S/T....I admit, I don't see them as an option with Pirelli on Tire
Rack...Granted, the ones on my truck are a few years old but are still in
great shape.  Seems the user reviews are really great for what the tire is
good for....2WD, 99% road use.   If you want to off-road, there are better
out there (but then you'd have a 4x4, right?)  All I can tell you are the
S/T's work out great on a 2WD , '99 Lariat F-150 Extended Cab...

IYM

> Which model?  TR suggested the Scorpion STR-A and that did not rate well
> in the snow compared to other available tires.  Mine's a 93 with LT
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>>> Nate
Tom J - 22 Dec 2008 21:13 GMT
> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150
> (might see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and
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> Yokohama Geolandar H/T-S G051 ($85 each) both seem to rate well, are
> the Michelins that much better?

I had Michelins before and bought Yokohammas. I'll never make that
mistake again. These Yokohammas seem to crawl all over the road -
steering is terrible.

Tom J
JR - 23 Dec 2008 00:19 GMT
Those Michelins are the way to go IMHO I used them exclusively on E150's and
never had traction issues and we get it all here DEEP snow, ice, sleet and
hot sticky summers. If you aren't going two sets they are about the best
compromise. The last set I had went 125,000KM so they cost a bit more up
front maybe but pay off on longevity.

>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150
>> (might see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it
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> Tom J
asadi - 23 Dec 2008 02:42 GMT
>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150
>> (might see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it
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>
> Tom J

Michelin has the same tire, but one rated for passenger and one rated for
light truck....

john
david - 23 Dec 2008 10:54 GMT
> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
> see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to
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> Nate

You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much better
than any US company's tires.
SC Tom - 23 Dec 2008 13:15 GMT
>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
>> see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to
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> You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much better
> than any US company's tires.

Or any Japanese company either.
Tom J - 23 Dec 2008 15:51 GMT
> You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much
> better than any US company's tires.

SO, Where do you think those Michelin tires are made? Try South
Carolina USA and Nova Scotia Canada!!  They also own BF Goodrich that
has plants in several states and Canada. They are employing workers
here!!

It gets frustrating hearing about "foreign" companies taking all our
business, when every single vehicle sold in the USA, no matter where
they were assembled, would not move from where they sit, IF all off
shore parts were removed. This has been true for over 25 years,
starting when the bearing companies all moved to other countries. I'm
glad they are now building plants and moving more production back to
the United States. The "not so big 3" better wake up!!

Tom J
lugnut - 23 Dec 2008 16:40 GMT
>> You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much
>> better than any US company's tires.
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>
>Tom J

What we need is the "FairTax" to completely replace our current hodgepodge of
tax laws designed to work for the politicians.  If it were in place, there would
be incentive for any company to move to and setup in the USA.  Even the Detroit
3 would be bringing their operations back.

Lugnut
N8N - 23 Dec 2008 17:21 GMT
> > You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much
> > better than any US company's tires.
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> has plants in several states and Canada. They are employing workers
> here!!

This is true.  Tire Rack's web site gives you origin info. for all
tires; smaller sizes (like what I need) are made in NS the larger ones
are made in USA.  I'd hate to think how much they'd cost if they had
to come from France!

nate
david - 26 Dec 2008 04:47 GMT
>> You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much
>> better than any US company's tires.
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> Tom J

I am aware that Michelin has plants in the US.  Please re-read my post.
Nate Nagel - 29 Dec 2008 20:22 GMT
>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
>> see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to
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> You won't be sorry with Michelins.  They are (unfortunately) much better
> than any US company's tires.

Well after reading all the comments and perusing the reviews at the Tire
Rack I think I've pretty much settled on Michelin LTX A/T2

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=LTX+A%2FT+2

they seem to be much higher rated than the LTX M/S; I like the ides of
extra bad-weather traction because when I'm really going to need it is
in rural PA, where if I actually lived there I would have held out for a
4WD truck.  For all the more I drive this truck I don't really care
about a gas mileage penalty or a slight increase in noise.

I dropped the truck off today to have them check out the front end (and
then order me some tires assuming no repairs are needed) should have it
back by the weekend...

nate

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Nate Nagel - 30 Dec 2008 13:11 GMT
>>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150 (might
>>> see occasional snow) I am looking on the tire rack site and it seems to
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> nate

Got a call from the shop, truck checked out fine but I ended up ordering
four new tires.  I'd complained of a slight vibration in the front
end/steering wheel and the guy said that the (cheap off-brand) tires on
the front were definitely causing it.  Said that the rims appeared to be
dead nuts on but as soon as he engaged the road force rollers on one of
the front tires the tread started squirming all over the place.

I guess sometimes you get what you pay for... I'll post what those tires
were if they are still hanging around when I go to pick the truck up.  I
just remember them looking kinda cheesy.

I'm looking forward to a truck that actually drives halfway decent...
if only I could get my company car maintained the way I maintain my own
vehicles (can I pick out my own tires, please?  The stock Goodyears were
flat out dangerous, and the replacement Uniroyal Tiger Paws started out
as a significant improvement but the rubber hardened or something
because they're now almost as bad as I remember the Goodyears being...
Pull away from a stop sign uphill in the rain?  That's a spinning...)

nate

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Nate Nagel - 31 Dec 2008 15:48 GMT
>>>> Which would your choice be for an all-around tire for a 2WD F-150
>>>> (might
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> nate

Follow up - picked up truck last night.  Girl drove the truck home and
commented that it drove better, I thought she was nuts because the
vibration didn't show up until about 65-70 MPH.  Well today I needed to
run to the store to get some stuff to unclog my head (MY head, not one
on any of my vehicles!) so I took the truck and I saw what she meant
immediately.  Despite all the reviews I read of the Michelins having
soft sidewalls the ride felt noticeably firmer and there was less body
roll in the corners.  I took the truck out on I-66 for a quick blast up
to speed to see if the vibration was gone, and holy heck it drives like
a new truck.  There's a little vibration through the steering wheel but
it feels more like that little transmission of engine vibes like you get
on an old BMW, or maybe it's the tread of the tires, in any case it's
not offensive and doesn't move the steering wheel at all like the old
tires did.

The old tires were "Power King All Position" FWIW.  They were LT rated
but looked awful squishy even when pumped up to 40+ PSI maybe that is
why the new Michelins feel so much better.  Old rear tires were
Michelins, those were replaced because they were starting to weather
check badly on both the sidewall and tread.

I only did one quick (well, as quick as you can with a 300 pushing
against a really stiff headwind) blast up to 70 MPH to verify lack of
vibes, because as soon as I got going down the highway a sleet storm
came up and apparently even new Michelins won't keep my truck from
getting blown around when a 40+ MPH wind shifts around to the side.
Just a bit squirrely...  I waited until the wind died down briefly,
checked for proper operation, got off at the next exit, went home, am
now happily on couch with coffee in hand.  Much better :)

nate

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ds549@webtv.net - 27 Dec 2008 00:11 GMT
i been useing big on tires on my truck for years.hold the
road well. they last to the milage stated,put on free,fixed free ,
balanced and rotated free as long as theres good tread.  and they do it
fast,,with mexicans..

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david - 27 Dec 2008 03:03 GMT
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:11:52 -0500, ds549 rearranged some electrons to
say:

> i been useing big on tires on my truck for years.hold the road well.
> they last to the milage stated,put on free,fixed free , balanced and
> rotated free as long as theres good tread.  and they do it fast,,with
> mexicans..

Are you drunk, or just on drugs?
IYM - 29 Dec 2008 12:37 GMT
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:11:52 -0500, ds549 rearranged some electrons to
> say:
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>
> Are you drunk, or just on drugs?

No - He's just webtv'ing....Probably from his trailer...  ;)

IYM
ds549@webtv.net - 30 Dec 2008 17:03 GMT
i been useing big on tires on my truck for years.hold the road well.
they last to the milage stated,put on free,fixed free , balanced and
rotated free as long as theres good tread. and they do it fast,,with
mexicans..
replied:Are you drunk, or just on drugs?
------------------------------------------                   no ,no
drugs, after selling my buisiness and retireing i got tired of having to
drop my truck off or wait hours to get rotations and balancing done. so
i tried big o and really like their tires and fast service,,with
mexicans..

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