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Steve - 26 Jan 2009 17:56 GMT
Visit the website below, sign up as a Preferred Customer and purchase AMSOIL
products at wholesale pricing.

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/default.aspx?zo=1690163
rmac - 26 Jan 2009 20:16 GMT
Spam was reported to Amsoil.
Please keep your advertisements to yourself and your hoodwinked customers.

> Visit the website below, sign up as a Preferred Customer and purchase
> AMSOIL
> products at wholesale pricing.
>
> https://www.spamsoil.com/rest_deleted>
Steve - 27 Jan 2009 04:13 GMT
> Spam was reported to Amsoil.
> Please keep your advertisements to yourself and your hoodwinked customers.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> https://www.spamsoil.com/rest_deleted>

RMAC:
Before I posted to the group, I looked for a FAQ (did not find one) and also
looked through other messages posted.  This is my very attempt at posting
any messages to this group.  If I am not welcome here, a message stating
such is all that is needed for me to avoid this newsgroup.

Maybe I should have posted as a reply to Virus proof Linux user who stated
that he's used AMSOIL since 1988.  I saw that post and wanted to let others
know how and where to purchase it.

My apologies for the intrusion.

Thank you for letting me know that ads are not welcome.  I will refrain from
posting anything else to this newsgroup.  However, I will monitor the group
and if other posters continue to advertise here, I will expect you to treat
them with the same kindness you extended to me.

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
amsoil1@charter.net
rmac - 27 Jan 2009 05:52 GMT
>> Spam was reported to Amsoil.
>> Please keep your advertisements to yourself and your hoodwinked
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Independent AMSOIL Dealer
> amsoil1@charter.net

Thank you,
No adds will be fine.
This is a Ford group, for discussing legitimate products.
scrape - 27 Jan 2009 12:10 GMT
>Thank you,
>No adds will be fine.
>This is a Ford group, for discussing legitimate products.

And as a side note, anyone can get the Preferred Customer pricing
by just visiting the Website and paying the $10 or whatever.
Steve - 27 Jan 2009 17:10 GMT
>>Thank you,
>>No adds will be fine.
>>This is a Ford group, for discussing legitimate products.
>
> And as a side note, anyone can get the Preferred Customer pricing
> by just visiting the Website and paying the $10 or whatever.

Scrape:

What you state is true.  However, what you probably don't know is that every
person who goes to the AMSOIL web site and signs up as a Preferred Customer
is assigned to an existing AMSOIL dealer closest to the customer's zip code
who gets credit for every purchase that is made for that point forward.

Since each AMSOIL dealer is in business for himself, if you were to sign up
under the link I provided, I would get credit for every purchase you make.

As a side note to all of this, I have been in the auto industry my whole
life and recently lost my job as part of the auto industry meltdown.  I
became an independent AMSOIL dealer to try and earn some sort of living for
my family.

I am not a spammer... only trying to earn a living until I can find another
job in the auto industry.

Again, I apologize for the intrusion.  Should anyone want to know more about
AMSOIL and it's superior qualities, you may contact me directly at
amsoil1@charter.net.

Thank you for your time.

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
ds549@webtv.net - 05 Feb 2009 01:01 GMT
know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i dont use
it.i see no problem with the link to amsoil.may help someone that uses
it get a better deal. no moderator here to kick anyone out.lucas

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Steve - 05 Feb 2009 03:35 GMT
Thanks Lucas!

I have recently become an independent AMSOIL dealer to try
and earn some sort of living if I should be unable to secure another
position in my chosen field.  I've been unemployed since December 11, 2008.
My goal is to be self sufficient and not use unemployment benefits any
longer than absolutely necessary.

AMSOIL products are 100 percent synthetic and are made using the very best
base stock and additives available in the industry.

AMSOIL has been selling synthetic oil since1972 and was the first.

Like you, I've known about AMSOIL for a long time, but never really knew the
benefits of using it.  Like many, I just thought is was overpriced.  It is
more expensive to purchase, but is the least expensive over the life of a
vehicle due to superior wear protection, increased fuel efficiency, cooler
running engines - as much as 50 degrees F, and a customer convenience by
using extended drain intervals.

Many other benefits exist and will provide peace of mind to anyone having
the foresight to look past the initial cost of the product and see the
benefits associated with a superior engineered product.

Please visit the link below or email me to learn more.

If you decide to order, please use the link below so I receive credit for
the sale.  After visiting the site below, you decide to make a purchase,
you will be re-directed to AMSOIL's site and I will receive credit for the
sale.

Thanks again for your vote of confidence in me to provide a useful product
for all who visit this newsgroup!
Signature

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying to Earn A Living
35 Years of GM Parts Experience
http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
amsoil1@charter.net

>   know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i dont use
> it.i see no problem with the link to amsoil.may help someone that uses
> it get a better deal. no moderator here to kick anyone out.lucas
>
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> http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm
rmac - 05 Feb 2009 04:56 GMT
The most economical way to lubricate an engine is to follow the
manufacturer's recommendations and maintenance schedule.
Paying extra for oil analyses, expensive filters, and dealers'
commissions only adds to expense, and does nothing to
add to the longetivity of an vehicle.
I know of no auto manufacturer who recommends using
non-API certified oils.

The author of the sales pitch (deleted) was correct in one
of his statements --

>"Like many, I just thought is was overpriced."
scrape - 05 Feb 2009 12:44 GMT
>The most economical way to lubricate an engine is to follow the
>manufacturer's recommendations and maintenance schedule.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>>"Like many, I just thought is was overpriced."

I can't comment on the use of the product in daily drivers and
like that, but I've been using it in my racing dirtbikes for about
a year and a half - both in the gearboxes and the 2S oil in the
premix of the two strokes.

In these applications, they beat, hands down, virtually every
other product I've used in the past 8 or 10 years.  I use the
Dominator 2S oil and I'll go easily over a year without fouling a
plug.  With the same jetting/ratios/etc., nothing else even comes
close.  Shifting is much smoother using their gear oils.

Typically, they're overpriced once they're marked up several times
at your local retailer, but using the "preferred customer" plan
makes them a good bit cheaper than the competition.

I understand their lack of API certs and it was a concern of mine
as well, but if I was to go with a full synth in my trucks, I
wouldn't hesitate to use theirs.  I just stick with a good dino
oil and change it frequently in these vehicles though.
I don't care how long an oil holds up - not breaking down, etc.,
it still gets dirty.
aarcuda69062 - 05 Feb 2009 13:57 GMT
> It is
> more expensive to purchase, but is the least expensive over the life of a
> vehicle due to superior wear protection, increased fuel efficiency, cooler
> running engines - as much as 50 degrees F, and a customer convenience by
> using extended drain intervals.

Cooler running engines?

Now there is something worth exploring...

Can you explain exactly what you have observed in this regard on your
own vehicle(s)?
Tom J - 05 Feb 2009 16:37 GMT
> Like you, I've known about AMSOIL for a long time, but never really
> knew the benefits of using it.  Like many, I just thought is was
> overpriced.

IT IS OVERPRICED because of the markup to each "sales group" in the
chain of delivery to the end user through this multi-level marketing
scam!!  Suckers begat more suckers!! You just fell for the bait!!

Tom J
Steve - 05 Feb 2009 21:19 GMT
>> Like you, I've known about AMSOIL for a long time, but never really
>> knew the benefits of using it.  Like many, I just thought is was
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Tom J
Tom:

That's just hype on your part.  AMSOIL has a Suggested Retail Price on every
one of their products.  They also have established wholesale pricing and as
a Preferred Customer, you have access to every AMSOIL product at the very
SAME PRICE as I can purchase it.

When you purchase as a Preferred Customer, AMSOIL pays a very small
commission to the dealer of record for a particular customer.  The
commission paid is based on the dealer's monthly sales volume.

Every person that purchases AMSOIL products has an assigned Independent
Dealer whether you realize it or not.  When a new AMSOIL client goes to the
AMSOIL web site and purchases directly from AMSOIL, one of the questions
asked when you create your account is if you were referred to the site by an
Independent AMSOIL Dealer.  If you type in the referral number (mine is
1690163), then I woiuld get the commission.  Otherwise, you are assigned to
an Independent Dealer randomly by your zip code and the closest dealer to
you is assigned to you for life.
Signature

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying to Earn A Living
35 Years of GM Parts Experience
http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
amsoil1@charter.net

scrape - 06 Feb 2009 01:36 GMT
>> Like you, I've known about AMSOIL for a long time, but never really
>> knew the benefits of using it.  Like many, I just thought is was
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>chain of delivery to the end user through this multi-level marketing
>scam!!  Suckers begat more suckers!! You just fell for the bait!!

Yeah, but with VERY little effort, you can beat that game and get
it as cheap or cheaper than competing products.

NOT an Amsoil shill, but I like their products.
none - 08 Feb 2009 05:16 GMT
>    know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i dont use
> it.i see no problem with the link to amsoil.may help someone that uses
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm
>  

As a side note, during my 20+ years in the US Air Force,
I noticed that Amsoil is the preferred synthetic lube for all aircraft.

Some new car warrantees demand that ONLY synthetic lubes are used,
because they do NOT flash off at the high internal temperatures like
petroleum based lubricants.

Petroleum based lubricants leave a sticky residue that cooks into a hard
layer, somewht like baked laquer, that can flake off and score vital
bearings and surfaces.

I have opened up and examined some of my motorcycle, truck, and car
engines, usually after 20,000 to 50,000 miles and found them to be as
spartan and clean as when new.

I am in my 60's, and have owned garages, rebuilt about 60 engines,
repaired many more than that, and am pleased to have seen my works
attain long service lives beyond what they had originally achieved
before they were rebuilt, broken in, then switched over to synthetic
lubricants.

I suggest that the folks who comprehend genuine science methods will use
the less expensive Amsoil, that, with proper testing,  go 100,000 miles
between oil changes, in commercial OTR and heavy equipment vehicles.
Some have 5 gallon to 25 gallon capacities.

In my vehicles, Amsoil gets changed every 27,000 miles, with a filter
change at 13,500 miles.  Of course, only Amsoil gives me a written
warranty against failure of internal parts, on my vehicle with 162,000
miles on the odometer.
Steve - 08 Feb 2009 18:13 GMT
>>    know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i dont use
>> it.i see no problem with the link to amsoil.may help someone that uses
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> warranty against failure of internal parts, on my vehicle with 162,000
> miles on the odometer.

Thank you for the glowing testimonial for AMSOIL.  May I use your
testimonial on my web page?  Please email me directly with consent to post
your testimonial on the URL listed below.

Thanx!
Signature

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying to Earn A Living
35 Years of GM Parts Experience
http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
amsoil1@charter.net

Tom J - 08 Feb 2009 19:46 GMT
>>>    know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i
>>> dont
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Thanx!

Yea gads!! You are even more gullible than I thought if you think that
spiff is a "testimonial".
:-(

Tom J
aarcuda69062 - 09 Feb 2009 00:08 GMT
> >    know people useing amsoil for many years and swear by it. i dont use
> > it.i see no problem with the link to amsoil.may help someone that uses
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> As a side note, during my 20+ years in the US Air Force,
> I noticed that Amsoil is the preferred synthetic lube for all aircraft.

So, you're saying that the Air Force uses Amsoil automotive lubricants
in aircraft?

> Some new car warrantees demand that ONLY synthetic lubes are used,
> because they do NOT flash off at the high internal temperatures like
> petroleum based lubricants.

Hog wash.
No OEM "demands" a synthetic.
Most OEMs have their own specifications and approvals for motor oil, it
may happen that those specifications and approvals can only be met by a
synthetic base stock, but it does not equate to [them] demanding that a
synthetic be used.

FWIW, I have not yet found a single OEM approval for -any- Amsoil
product.

Not one single one.

> Petroleum based lubricants leave a sticky residue that cooks into a hard
> layer, somewht like baked laquer, that can flake off and score vital
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> I suggest that the folks who comprehend genuine science

Now *that* is funny!

> methods will use
> the less expensive Amsoil, that, with proper testing,  go 100,000 miles
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> warranty against failure of internal parts, on my vehicle with 162,000
> miles on the odometer.
Steve - 09 Feb 2009 02:12 GMT
> Hog wash.
> No OEM "demands" a synthetic.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_5W-30.aspx

The Mobil 1 5W-30 grade delivers the viscosity recommended for most General
Motors vehicles and many imports. Mobil 1 5W-30 is the first choice of
premium car manufacturers, including Corvette. Mobil 1 5W-30 meets:

 a.. GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec)
 b.. Ford WSS-M2C929-A
 c.. Honda HTO-06
 d.. ACEA A1/B1
 e.. ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst)
Signature

Steve Spence
Independent AMSOIL Dealer
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
Unemployed Car Guy - Trying to Earn A Living
35 Years of GM Parts Experience
http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
amsoil1@charter.net

aarcuda69062 - 09 Feb 2009 06:13 GMT
> > Hog wash.
> > No OEM "demands" a synthetic.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Motors vehicles and many imports. Mobil 1 5W-30 is the first choice of
> premium car manufacturers, including Corvette. Mobil 1 5W-30 meets:

And this proves that OEMs "demand" a synthetic exactly how?

>   a.. GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec)

Amsoil doesn't not have either of these approvals.

>   b.. Ford WSS-M2C929-A

Amsoil does not have this approval.

>   c.. Honda HTO-06

Amsoil does not have this approval.

>   d.. ACEA A1/B1

Amsoil does not meet this specification.

>   e.. ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst)

Being the least significant and easiest to meet, does Amsoil even meet
this specification Steve?
Tom J - 09 Feb 2009 16:45 GMT
>>> Hog wash.
>>> No OEM "demands" a synthetic.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> meet
> this specification Steve?

My bet is Steve won't be a dealer very long. They don't like this type
of topic!!

Tom J
 
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