...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
fairly new but unknown brand/type. (was a little bitter; had corner
mech. replace wheel bearings right when I bought the truck, he said my
pads were thin so he went ahead and put them on, but he didn't turn
the rotors when he did it) Should I just turn rotors and reuse pads,
or are the ceramics really that much better? was going to order
raybestos through rockauto.
What are the odds my rotors are too thin to turn? '93 F-150, 2WD. Do
they generally last through more than one pad change or no? Haven't
had a chance to look; every day I've had the time to pull a wheel,
it's been raining.
thanks
nate
m6onz5a - 23 Apr 2009 03:09 GMT
> ...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
> are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
> nate
You'll have to check the thickness of the rotor. It's usually stamped
in the inside what the minimum thickness is. Some rotors can be
turned, while others are throw aways.. Ceramic pads are harder than
semi-metallic pads. They have less dust too. It might be cheaper just
to purchase new rotors. If they are warped turning them may take the
warp out, but it may return over time. I'm sure the pads he threw on
were probably an inexpensive set.
Vic Smith - 23 Apr 2009 03:44 GMT
>...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
>are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>had a chance to look; every day I've had the time to pull a wheel,
>it's been raining.
If the rotors are warped, get new rotors. Don't cost much.
Go with ceramic pads. They wear longer, don't heat as quickly, and
usually squeal less. But some say they are harder on rotors.
Brakes are easy to keep up, including pad changes.
Unless rotors are warped or deeply cut, just reuse them.
We never turned rotors for our family cars. The ones that got warped
or deeply cut were replaced with new ones.
Chevys. New rotors run about 20 bucks. The F-150 rotors should be
maybe 30-40 bucks.
--Vic
N8N - 23 Apr 2009 23:32 GMT
On Apr 22, 10:44 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> >...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
> >are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
> --Vic
Are Guardian/One Source rotors any good? RA has them on closeout for
$25. The name brands that I recognize start at $50 and go up from
there.
nate
david - 24 Apr 2009 01:21 GMT
>> >...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
>> >are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
> nate
Hell, they're all made in China or India, so take your pick.
Vic Smith - 24 Apr 2009 03:23 GMT
>>> >...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
>>> >are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
>Hell, they're all made in China or India, so take your pick.
What he said. These aren't precision parts.
Just take an old rotor to compare. The parts guys sometimes get it
wrong. Sometimes there are different rotors put on the same
car/truck.
My '88 Celebrity sedan had heavier duty station wagon rotors for some
reason. Quite a bit bigger. Maybe it was an option. Got the car 2
years old.
Made for an extra trip to the parts store.
--Vic
N8N - 24 Apr 2009 13:18 GMT
On Apr 23, 10:23 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> >>> >...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
> >>> >are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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> years old.
> Made for an extra trip to the parts store.
Well, I have heard of some "made in China" rotors being warped out of
the box, and I was hoping to avoid that effect.
Of course, we're talking about a vehicle that I drive on average once
every two weeks or so, and less than that lately...
nate
HLS - 24 Apr 2009 01:28 GMT
> ...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
> are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
> nate
Dont use the bottom of the line pads. Ceramics, or whateverthehell the
upper level
pads are, can be worth the money.
You have to measure the rotors. Take them to the machine shop and ask them.
There is no use to replace a rotor that can be machined smooth and
parallel....BUT
dont let any jakeleg use a f***ing impact wrench on your lugs... Clean the
lugs, the
surfaces, etc, before you install new or machined rotors.
I have a Dodge truck that has plenty of beef to machine... Only time I have
had any
problems is when shitteauxx tire companies rotate and use impace
wrenches...even
with TorqStix... Use a torque wrench.
Sometimes it IS cheaper to change the rotor or caliper but not EVERY time..
Study
the problem.
Anumber1 - 24 Apr 2009 14:40 GMT
> ...are ceramic pads worth it? Truck is pulling to one side and rotors
> are warped. Already bought new calipers and hoses, pads on there are
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>
> nate
Honestly, on a work truck, I don't care if the rotors are warped as long
as I know it has friction material and it's gonna stop.
On the rotors you are gonna find a "machine to" spec stamped/cast into
'em. Thinner than that and you need new rotors (gotta set of calipers or
a mic? Go measure.).
I have had great luck rebuilding Ford calipers in my garage with a hone
and emery paper. I have even gotten good enough to reuse the rubber seal.
The trick to even brake pad wear is in the caliper's sliding action. If
it doesn't slide, you are going to wear the inner pad.
In situations where the vehicle is not worthy of a $500 brake overhaul
(parts cost), I use "groovy" rotors and cheap pads (and rebuild/cleanup
the calipers).
Ceramic pads are great if you are using "all new" everything. Most of
the time I am keeping rolling junk on the road so "new everything" does
not apply.
HLS - 24 Apr 2009 20:29 GMT
> I have had great luck rebuilding Ford calipers in my garage with a hone
> and emery paper. I have even gotten good enough to reuse the rubber seal.
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> time I am keeping rolling junk on the road so "new everything" does not
> apply.
Even Autozone pads will work and last well if you use the good quality ones.
I agree with you on the calipers...I have rebuilt many of them, but now it
may
be cheaper to buy the caliper sets with pads ready to go. You are dead on
about the piston movement. I would never reuse rubber parts on brakes.
I have lived with shuddering rotors, but dont like it, and as long as Ihave
the wheels rotated and torqued up, I dont have the problem.
N8N - 26 Apr 2009 14:34 GMT
> > I have had great luck rebuilding Ford calipers in my garage with a hone
> > and emery paper. I have even gotten good enough to reuse the rubber seal.
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> I have lived with shuddering rotors, but dont like it, and as long as Ihave
> the wheels rotated and torqued up, I dont have the problem.
I got the calipers for $9 apiece from Rockauto, that's cheaper than I
could buy the seal kits. So now I have a "spare" set of calipers on
deck... if I even keep this truck through another brake job!
nate