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1997 Windstar Transmission Problem

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Joe's Newsgroup - 29 Apr 2009 13:19 GMT
Ford Windstar 3.6 liter
Towing Package
82000 miles

I have towed my boat before, but this time after about 100 miles, and a few
hills but not a particularly hard run YET, the tranny started to slip.
Then really badly.
I only ran maybe 1/8 after a mile and luckily pulled into a gas station with
a big lot, thank God.

To my horror the fluid looked like it was streaming out of the front seal,
but I could not see the seal because it is behind a shield, that the starter
goes through.
The fluid was coming out for quite a while, it was all underneath the length
of the undercarriage.

I put a quart in to park and the tranny worked, but it all came out from the
same spot in a steady stream, where the engine meets the tranny.

It was towed back, AAA Gold Rules, because it was 99 miles!!! So no charges
but only tolls!

Put 7 quarts in yesterday, NO LEAKING AT ALL, and I drove it for several
miles, shifting and no problems.
Just wanted to see where it was coming from, but it kept taking it and did
not leak!
My background is a capable backyard mechanic not afraid to tackle any job.
I have replaced tranny's on drive shaft vehicles no problem, but front wheel
drive looks like a pain in the a.s!

FORD GUYS PLEASE HELP!

WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED?

Thanks in advance.
Joe
david - 30 Apr 2009 02:05 GMT
> Ford Windstar 3.6 liter
> Towing Package
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Thanks in advance.
> Joe

Did you happen to check the fluid level?
Steve - 30 Apr 2009 03:23 GMT
| > Ford Windstar 3.6 liter
| > Towing Package
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
|
| Did you happen to check the fluid level?

I had a very similar experience with a 1975 Chevrolet Caprice Station
Wagon while on vacation in Big Bend State Park.  I pulled into a
campground and going into it, there was a very steep downward sloping
hill.

When I needed to get back up the hill (I was towing a camping
trailer), instead of getting a running start, I crept up to the
incline then goosed it to get up and over.  The car lost all of its
pulling power and transmission fluid was all over the ground.

I think the pressure exerted on the front pump exceeded the front pump
seal's ability and fluid just came squirting out.

After assessing the situation and driving the vehicle around the
campground for a couple of minutes (and it was still pulling OK), I
decided to take another run at the hill - with a running start this
time - and successfully negotiated it without any other complications
for the rest of the vacation (after topping off the ATF fluid level).

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david - 30 Apr 2009 10:17 GMT
> 08:19:53 -0400, Joe's Newsgroup rearranged some | electrons to say:
> |
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> - and successfully negotiated it without any other complications for the
> rest of the vacation (after topping off the ATF fluid level).

Sounds like the OP just overheated the transmission, and like your
experience, exceeded the seal's ability to keep the fluid in.  But the
question I had for him was:  "when was the last time he checked the fluid
level?" If it was low to begin with, then that could have caused it to
overheat.
Joe's Newsgroup - 30 Apr 2009 13:10 GMT
The fluid level was good prior to the trip.

I have been driving it for a few days now.
But now I will be really gunshy about towing.

NOT A DROP COMING OUT.

Thanks
Joe

>> 08:19:53 -0400, Joe's Newsgroup rearranged some | electrons to say:
>> |
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> level?" If it was low to begin with, then that could have caused it to
> overheat.
PeterD - 30 Apr 2009 13:54 GMT
>The fluid level was good prior to the trip.
>
>I have been driving it for a few days now.
>But now I will be really gunshy about towing.

Not towing anymore may be a good idea... Some vehicles do better than
others WRT towing.

>NOT A DROP COMING OUT.
>
>Thanks
>Joe
Old Crow - 03 May 2009 12:11 GMT
> The fluid level was good prior to the trip.
>
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>> level?" If it was low to begin with, then that could have caused it to
>> overheat.

Just for curiousity's sake, when  you  were towing did you have the tranny
in Overdrive?
I did that in a Jeep Cherokee I used to have.  Towed an empty Uhaul trailer
home from the rental place in OD(heck, the trailer was empty after all)and
all of a sudden it spewwed fluid everywhere.  Filled it back up and the next
day towed that trailer(now full to capacity)1800 miles in Drive instead of
OD with no further problem.

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Joe's Newsgroup - 03 May 2009 17:29 GMT
Yes, I did not have the OD off button pressed.

I thought of that the other day because, I go over everthing in my head, all
angles.
If I do tow in the future the OD WILL BE OFF.
STILL NO LEAK!!
THANKS EVERYONE.
JOE

>> The fluid level was good prior to the trip.
>>
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> and the next day towed that trailer(now full to capacity)1800 miles in
> Drive instead of OD with no further problem.
Jeff Strickland - 03 May 2009 17:43 GMT
> Yes, I did not have the OD off button pressed.
>
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> THANKS EVERYONE.
> JOE

Another O/D tip-of-the-day ...

When you come to a long incline on the freeway, and the transmission shifts
down from OD into whichever the next lower gear is, gains a bit of speed,
shifts into OD again, then repeats, press the OD button to force the
transmission to hold the lower gear until you get to the top of the hill and
level off, or crest the hill and begin the decent down the other side.

The transmission should not be allowed to hunt back and forth for the gear
needed to climb the hill. It is far better for your car or truck if you
force the transmission to hold the lower gear while going up a long grade.
 
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