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F-650 Jet Truck dragstrip test run

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1D10T - 25 Jun 2009 16:33 GMT
Getting closer to a full run. Still needs roll cage and chute to do a full
burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmcCFrujpDw&feature=channel_page
Donut - 27 Jun 2009 17:29 GMT
>Getting closer to a full run. Still needs roll cage and chute to do a full
>burn.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmcCFrujpDw&feature=channel_page

So you say. Did you even listen to the commentary in that video? The
Women that apparently works there was laughing and saying things like
"that's a fake", "that's all he does" and questioning why there was a
need for a rescue chase.

And what about the suspension and tires? I believe you had stated in a
previous post that this truck with the smoke machine would do 300+
mph. Good luck with that.

This is just thinly veiled spam.
1D10T - 27 Jun 2009 20:03 GMT
>>Getting closer to a full run. Still needs roll cage and chute to do a full
>>burn.
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmcCFrujpDw&feature=channel_page
>
> So you say.

Yup.

Did you even listen to the commentary in that video?

Nope.

> The Women that apparently works there was laughing and saying things like
> "that's a fake", "that's all he does"

Because he's not prepared for a full burn. It doesn't matter what she says
or thinks.

and questioning why there was a
> need for a rescue chase.

Insurance regs.

> And what about the suspension and tires? I believe you had stated in a
> previous post that this truck with the smoke machine would do 300+
> mph. Good luck with that.

Here's what I posted 6/5:
"Notice that the available demos were in parking lots, etc. I don't think
Hooters wants a truck going through the parking lot at 300 mph.   :-)"

See the smiley, j.rkoff?

> This is just thinly veiled spam.

What makes you think I need your approval. Your envy is thinly veiled. And
yes this is spam - if being proud of my son's accomplishments is such. Get
your own $150K 650 and a $65K Ranger and show everybody. Take a hike loser.
PeterD - 27 Jun 2009 22:14 GMT
>>>Getting closer to a full run. Still needs roll cage and chute to do a full
>>>burn.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>yes this is spam - if being proud of my son's accomplishments is such. Get
>your own $150K 650 and a $65K Ranger and show everybody. Take a hike loser.

If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.

Come back when this 'thing' is able to something other than make noise
and smoke.
1D10T - 27 Jun 2009 23:07 GMT
> If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.
>
> Come back when this 'thing' is able to something other than make noise
> and smoke.

What is it that you and the other lame-a.s don't understand about 'test' in
the subject line. You're both making a public display of your low I.Q.'s

Definition of 'test':
Trial run-through of process: a trial run-through of a process or on
equipment to find out if it works.

Now you know - that is if you can decipher the meaning of those words.

Definition of 'decipher:
Make out what something says: to succeed in establishing what a word or
piece of writing says when it is difficult or almost impossible to read.

Let me know if you need any more help, I'll be glad to assist.
Old Crow - 28 Jun 2009 13:23 GMT
>> If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.
>>
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>
> Let me know if you need any more help, I'll be glad to assist.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Your screen name about says it all.

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1D10T - 28 Jun 2009 15:53 GMT
Man. the jealousy is rampant in this group, not to mention low IQ. Another
lamer who doesn't understand the meaning of 'test' run. Go play with your
hot wheels sonny.
scrape - 28 Jun 2009 23:03 GMT
>Man. the jealousy is rampant in this group, not to mention low IQ. Another
>lamer who doesn't understand the meaning of 'test' run. Go play with your
>hot wheels sonny.

Kind of what you're doing, isn't it?  Just making lots of vroom,
vroom noises and not much else.  What exactly do you hope to
ultimately accomplish anyway?
1D10T - 29 Jun 2009 00:33 GMT
>>Man. the jealousy is rampant in this group, not to mention low IQ. Another
>>lamer who doesn't understand the meaning of 'test' run. Go play with your
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> vroom noises and not much else. What exactly do you hope to
> ultimately accomplish anyway?

First of all, this is a show truck, not a drag vehicle, and it's not mine,
it's my son's. It's being developed and tested systematically to ensure
performance, endurance and safety. The day of the video was a freebie for
the dragstrip operators. It will not be used in competition.
The show venues pay big money for him to attract crowds. Sometimes it's a
fire, noise and smoke display, other times it's parked in front of new
businesses for grand openings. People like it for what it does, and it's a
daily driver.

Here's a photo of the truck leaving my house in Florida on its way home from
a Monster Truck event in LaPorte, IN earlier this month. That job paid $10K:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3613738313/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3593695952/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joearnold/3593544728/sizes/o/

He has almost $150K in it and expects to break even by the end of the
summer, after only 8 months of work. Eventually he'll make a full
quarter-mile run, but definitely not at full thrust - ever hear of the
Darwin Awards?
Most of the responders to this thread talk like he should go full blast
first time out. He's not a fool, and won't do something stupid to please a
bunch of jerks.

My OP was to show it off and of course, publicize it, and I understand that
this NG isn't the best place for that. He has his own paid promoters and
paying sponsors.

I thought reasonable people might interested in what he's doing, and I never
expected the number of asinine replies that have been made from people who
likely drive cute little Rangers with pretty paint and wheels, with
over-driven boom boxes. Hot stuff!
It's been enjoyable seeing the level of intelligence they display. I think
they really feel they can piss me off. They're funny to say the least. I did
want this to be a friendly thread. Oh well.
I think I'll next post some links to his '98 Ranger with a Cummins diesel
that does 185 mph at 3200 rpm. It's also a *show* truck.
I hope this clears things up. Have a good day.
Joe Arnold
Donut - 29 Jun 2009 04:51 GMT
>He has almost $150K in it and expects to break even by the end of the
>summer, after only 8 months of work. Eventually he'll make a full
>quarter-mile run, but definitely not at full thrust - ever hear of the
>Darwin Awards?

8 months? The earliest vid on youtube is dated 1/6/08. Did he buy it
used? I know of the Darwin awards, so you say he's not in the running
this year?

>Most of the responders to this thread talk like he should go full blast
>first time out. He's not a fool, and won't do something stupid to please a
>bunch of jerks.

I disagree. I think most were saying "put up or shut up", or something
of that nature. Good to hear he's not as reactionary as his father.
Well maybe he is, he just hasn't demonstrated it in this group, as far
as I know.

>My OP was to show it off and of course, publicize it, and I understand that
>this NG isn't the best place for that. He has his own paid promoters and
>paying sponsors.

Publicize it, paid promoters and paying sponsors... Can you possibly
see where someone might construe that as spam? Especially when you say
you understand that this NG isn't the best place for that sort of
thing?

>I thought reasonable people might interested in what he's doing, and I never
>expected the number of asinine replies that have been made from people who
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>I hope this clears things up. Have a good day.
>Joe Arnold

I might be interested the mechanical side of the process, the
construction. But the same smoke blowing, flame throwing vids in
different locales is boring to me, and apparently to others. When he
gets it up to speed, post those links.

Apparently "they" did piss you off, enough at least to make you resort
to name calling . Is everyone that disagrees with you unintelligent?
Do you have no room for dissenting points of views? And they're all
likely to drive "cute little Rangers?" And what if they did? You're
not one of those people that values appearance over substance, are
you? Where I'm from, we'd call the being shallow, and in my opinion,
that's one of the worst kinds of ugly you can be.

Good day to you too.

Don
1D10T - 29 Jun 2009 06:03 GMT
>>He has almost $150K in it and expects to break even by the end of the
>>summer, after only 8 months of work. Eventually he'll make a full
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> used? I know of the Darwin awards, so you say he's not in the running
> this year?

LOL
The truck was bought new in mid '06. The present jet engine was installed
late '08. I think the above seems to imply he'll make $150K this year - no -
the jet was $65K, which he'll recover soon.
I'm not sure when the first vids were made or if they were posted right
away. The early ones were with a different engine, installed late '07 I
believe.

>>Most of the responders to this thread talk like he should go full blast
>>first time out. He's not a fool, and won't do something stupid to please a
>>bunch of jerks.
>
> I disagree. I think most were saying "put up or shut up", or something
> of that nature. Good to hear he's not as reactionary as his father.

Guilty

> Well maybe he is, he just hasn't demonstrated it in this group, as far
> as I know.

He's not a NG user. His full time job is as an A/C contractor in Ft.
Lauderdale. With work and the truck he hasn't much time for computers.

>>My OP was to show it off and of course, publicize it, and I understand
>>that
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> you understand that this NG isn't the best place for that sort of
> thing?

I realized up front that it looks like spam, but truthfully it's mostly a
father's pride.

>>I thought reasonable people might interested in what he's doing, and I
>>never
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> I might be interested the mechanical side of the process, the
> construction.

It's an awesome piece of machinery. When I see him again I'll get some
detailed shots of the system. The chrome-moly mounting assembly for the
engine is really well done, as is the fuel plumbing. The fuel pump motor is
rated at 28 v @ 900 amps.

But the same smoke blowing, flame throwing vids in
> different locales is boring to me, and apparently to others. When he
> gets it up to speed, post those links.

For sure. But it won't be doing 300 mph. In the video, thrust was only
partial and for 4 seconds duration. I'm not sure what he'll finally decide
as far as limits are concerned. It's not a race vehicle.

> Apparently "they" did piss you off, enough at least to make you resort
> to name calling . Is everyone that disagrees with you unintelligent?

I said it was enjoyable. The ones wanting him to go full bore with an as yet
unfinished truck aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer. Hell, it
doesn't even have a roll cage.

> Do you have no room for dissenting points of views? And they're all
> likely to drive "cute little Rangers?"

Asinine replies often come from practiced flamers and out of envy. I'm
guilty of responding to their confrontational attitude.

> And what if they did? You're not one of those people that values
> appearance over
> substance, are you? Where I'm from, we'd call the being shallow, and in my
> opinion,
> that's one of the worst kinds of ugly you can be.

Right or wrong, I replied in kind. Should I have thanked them?

> Good day to you too.

Thanks for your interest Don.
None4U - 20 Jul 2009 05:52 GMT
>>>He has almost $150K in it and expects to break even by the end of the
>>>summer, after only 8 months of work. Eventually he'll make a full
[quoted text clipped - 98 lines]
>
> Thanks for your interest Don.

Diesel wrote. I was bored and looked at his pics.    I've come to the
conclusion that his jet truck is a sham.  Or he's was just  clueless about
his engine choice when he bought it. he dont have money to build one right.
hes living with the engine choice mistake.   He bought a surplus F5 engine
which is underpowered for his truck. A lot underpowered.  I can't say how
much .  Because I dont know how much the truck weighs.  But the thrust to
weight ratio can be used to figure acceleration speeds.    I can guess its
50% to 80% underpowered. Based on the thrust of other drag jet trucks
engines . It would be ok in a light funny car maybe.  But he needs a much
larger engine for the weight he's trying to move in a quarter mile.   I
doubt he could get much past 130 in a quarter mile.  Im thinking he should
accelerate like an airliner. Not a dragster.  They dont let drivers open
them engines up. They dont want compressor blades flying through the crowds.
And they arent required to maintain them for full power runs.  He's just
kinda screwed unless he gets a much larger surplus engine.   He's pretty
much got a truck that needs to be at Bonneville  salt flats to have enough
room to get up to some unknown  speed.   He doesnt have any choice but to
blow smoke and fire and waste gas.  It wont do 300mph runs with that engine
in a quarter mile.  Maybe not even a mile or even at all.
PeterD - 28 Jun 2009 13:36 GMT
>> If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>What is it that you and the other lame-a.s don't understand about 'test' in
>the subject line. You're both making a public display of your low I.Q.'s

What is it that you don't understand that you are not building
anticipation for a great thing, but instead just trolling for
whatever? When it really does what you claim, post it, but useless
videos of a truck driving around with a smoking surplus jet engine are
not interesting, except to you.

>Definition of 'test':
>Trial run-through of process:

You trialed nothing.

>a trial run-through of a process or on
>equipment to find out if it works.

And it didn't work, did it? Just noise, just smoke, no go.

>Now you know - that is if you can decipher the meaning of those words.

Above, decipered very well.

>Definition of 'decipher:
>Make out what something says: to succeed in establishing what a word or
>piece of writing says when it is difficult or almost impossible to read.

Please decipher my first comment above. When it does something other
than smoke and noise, come back. Till then, work on the truck, not
waste time on the forum.

>Let me know if you need any more help, I'll be glad to assist.

Yea, do a real run with the engine doing some work, or STFU.
1D10T - 28 Jun 2009 15:48 GMT
> Yea, do a real run with the engine doing some work

He will when he's got everything working to spec. This ain't a little boy's
toy like you play with.
Donut - 29 Jun 2009 04:51 GMT
>Here's what I posted 6/5:
>"Notice that the available demos were in parking lots, etc. I don't think
>Hooters wants a truck going through the parking lot at 300 mph.   :-)"
>
>See the smiley, j.rkoff?

I saw the smiley. But I'm still unsure as to how it applies to what
you said. I just assumed that you were referring to not going 300 mph
through a parking lot, not that the truck could never go 300 mph.
Which is it?

>> This is just thinly veiled spam.
>
>What makes you think I need your approval. Your envy is thinly veiled. And
>yes this is spam - if being proud of my son's accomplishments is such. Get
>your own $150K 650 and a $65K Ranger and show everybody. Take a hike loser.

You certainly don't need my approval, which is fortunate for you,
because you aren't going to get it. Just as I certainty don't seek or
expect your approval for saying that I think your posts are spam. Your
son apparently has his own shop, good for him. You have a reason to be
proud. He's probably especially proud of you when you start calling
people names or questioning their intelligence quotient. That's bound
to boost his business. That last part was sarcasm, just to be clear.

I can assure you that this has nothing to do with envy, veiled or
otherwise. Even if I had all the money in the world, it would never
occur to me to do something like your boy does with this smoke blower,
I think it's silly. I'm not saying it's wrong, and more power to the
folks that enjoy that sort of thing, just that I find it silly. I've
never been to any sort of "monster truck" event, auto race (though I
have seen parts of them on T.V.) or anything related to motorized
"speed". Just not my thing.

But thanks for providing the dictionary definitions of some of those
REALLY big words you used in other posts. Who knew you could go to a
website and copy and paste? That's going to be a real time saver :)
More sarcasm.
1D10T - 29 Jun 2009 06:23 GMT
> I saw the smiley. But I'm still unsure as to how it applies to what
> you said. I just a.s umed that you were referring to not going 300 mph
> through a parking lot, not that the truck could never go 300 mph.
> Which is it?

It can't go 300 mph, or I should probably say it won't. Tires
notwithstanding, the truck weighs a lot less the the F-5 the engine came out
of.

> You certainly don't need my approval, which is fortunate for you,
> because you aren't going to get it. Just as I certainty don't seek or
> expect your approval for saying that I think your posts are spam. Your
> son apparently has his own shop, good for him. You have a reason to be
> proud.

You bet. The show in LaPorte paid $10K for three shows in three days.

> I can assure you that this has nothing to do with envy, veiled or
> otherwise. Even if I had all the money in the world, it would never
> occur to me to do something like your boy does with this smoke blower,
> I think it's silly.

See above. $10K worth of silly.

I'm not saying it's wrong, and more power to the
> folks that enjoy that sort of thing, just that I find it silly. I've
> never been to any sort of "monster truck" event, auto race (though I
> have seen parts of them on T.V.) or anything related to motorized
> "speed". Just not my thing.

It sure pays well. Especially when it's basically a hobby for him. I got a
kick out of seeing pictures of him signing autographs on everything from
hats to tube-tops. I think it's silly of the people getting them. Like pro
wrestling fans.

> But thanks for providing the dictionary definitions of some of those
> REALLY big words you used in other posts. Who knew you could go to a
> website and copy and paste? That's going to be a real time saver :)
> More sarcasm.

LOL
Glad to see you have the IQ to figure out how I did that.
(Sarcasm)
Joe
 
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