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Friday, August 18, 2006
Ford's Problems
I am concerned about Ford's continuing problems, both because they are
a major American employer and manufacturer, and because I own a fair
amount of Ford bonds (fortunately, much of which matures in 2007, well
before I expect any default could happen). Ford isn't the only American
maker being hit by rising gasoline prices, of course--but articles like
this one suggest that they are getting hit harder than GM and Chrysler:
Ford Motor Co. said Friday it would temporarily halt production at 10
assembly plants between now and the end of the year, blaming high gas
prices for pushing many consumers away from its pickups and SUVs and
toward higher-mileage models.
Ford said the cuts will reduce the need for costly incentives to reduce
bloated inventories. But they also illustrate just how out of step the
lineup at the nation's second-largest automaker has become, as it loses
market share to mostly Asian competitors under the watch of Chairman
and Chief Executive Bill Ford.
General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group also have
been caught in the shift away from trucks and SUVs to smaller cars and
crossovers as consumers seek better fuel economy. The Big Three's
combined U.S. market share fell to 54.5 percent for the first seven
months of 2006, down from 58.7 percent in the same period a year ago.
GM already has announced it will cut production 7 percent to 8 percent
in the third-quarter.
Ford announced a turnaround plan in January that called for shedding
25,000 to 30,000 jobs and closing 14 plants by 2012. By year's end, the
company was to have cut production capacity 15 percent.
Bill Ford said last month that the plan _ dubbed the "Way Forward" _
would be accelerated. He said Friday that the details would be revealed
in September.
Okay, it is possible that Ford failed to respond as quickly as GM and
Chrysler to all this--but there is a pretty major boycott of Ford under
way at the moment--and I see no discussion of whether this might be
contributing to their problems, relative to their American competitors:
When Ford responds to those who write concerning their promotion of
homosexual marriage, the response they get from Ford's Customer
Relationship Center says their support "is a strong commitment we
intend to carry forward with no exception." For Ford, that support also
includes homosexual polygamy.
To show those supporting traditional marriage they mean business, Ford
sponsored the June 6 issue of the homosexual publication The Advocate.
The cover reads: "Polygamy & Gay Men. Dirty laundry or sexual freedom?
How gay men handle multiple partners." The article promotes homosexual
polygamy.
Ford sponsored the publication with a full page back cover advertising
Ford Motor company product Volvo and a full page ad for all Ford brands
with the line: "Ford Motor Company. Standing strong with America's
families and communities."
Ford's support for the magazine's promotion of homosexual polygamy
leaves no doubt that Ford means to continue pushing the homosexual
agenda, even including homosexual polygamy.
To see the front cover, the contents page and the ads for Ford and
Volvo, click here. I must warn you, it will be offensive to many. The
pages show the contents of the magazine which Ford helped sponsor with
two full-page ads, but I felt we must include the proof. If you don't
want to see it, please don't click the link.
At their stockholders meeting on May 11, Ford voted 95% of the ballots
cast to continue their support of the homosexual agenda rather than be
neutral in the cultural battle.
The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
Now, the AFA is going to take credit for this damage to Ford, both to
make themselves look powerful, and to use it as leverage against Ford
to remain neutral in the culture wars.
I've never been a Ford fan; let me tell you about the Mercury Capri I
owned, long, long ago. But in a lot of Red State America, you buy Chevy
or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
company can't be sitting well.
Tom - 21 Aug 2006 21:36 GMT
no one listened to your homophobic bullshit the last time you posted this
trash here, so why would you think it will be any different one month later,
you rectal orifice dipstick.
> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2006_08_13_archive.html#115596649312576497
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> or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> company can't be sitting well.
raven1 - 21 Aug 2006 23:12 GMT
>The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
>the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
The price of gas has nothing to do with it, of course...
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
anarcissie@gmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 23:37 GMT
> >The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
> >the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
>
> The price of gas has nothing to do with it, of course...
The price of Sound of Trumpet's gas is zero. And it's
worth every penny!
F. H. - 22 Aug 2006 00:38 GMT
>>> The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
>>> the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
>> The price of gas has nothing to do with it, of course...
>
> The price of Sound of Trumpet's gas is zero. And it's
> worth every penny!
The choice of "Trumpet" should be no surprise. Its an excellent phallic
symbol for a closet gay.
Gregory Gadow - 22 Aug 2006 14:27 GMT
> >>> The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
> >>> the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
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> The choice of "Trumpet" should be no surprise. Its an excellent phallic
> symbol for a closet gay.
Although kazoo is probably closer to the truth.
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anarcissie@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2006 16:39 GMT
> > >>> The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
> > >>> the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
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>
> Although kazoo is probably closer to the truth.
Summoning all trolls....
I Love Edsels - 30 Aug 2006 05:05 GMT
...homosexual polygamy? I didn't think they had enough homosexuals in
Utah for that!
>> >The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
>> >the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
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>The price of Sound of Trumpet's gas is zero. And it's
>worth every penny!
Michael Price - 22 Aug 2006 06:05 GMT
> >The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
> >the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
>
> The price of gas has nothing to do with it, of course...
> --
Nor the lacklustre management performance and crippling pension
commitments.
> "O Sybilli, si ergo
> Fortibus es in ero
> O Nobili! Themis trux
> Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
Picasso - 22 Aug 2006 01:22 GMT
What is this guy talking about homosexual car company.
Anyway, any company with their number one selling vehicle a fullsize
8cyl truck that with each subsequent model only gets worse on fuel is
only doomed.
Anyway, I love my ford truck and car... both v8's :P
I leave my fuel efficiency to the japs in our civic :P
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> or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> company can't be sitting well.
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica - 22 Aug 2006 01:27 GMT
> What is this guy talking about homosexual car company.
>
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> > or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> > company can't be sitting well.
I like a car company that is not homophobic, I will keep buying from
toyota as they are not homophobic and make a great car, did you know
that the chevy camaro is now made in canada, we cant even make a car
here that was a standard of american culture, that is how sad our
country has become.
BDK - 22 Aug 2006 06:28 GMT
> > What is this guy talking about homosexual car company.
> >
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> here that was a standard of american culture, that is how sad our
> country has become.
The Camaro was discontinued in '02, and was made in Canada for a long
time..with much better quality than the ones made in the US plant.
It will return in '09..
Built in the US.
BDK
Jeff - 22 Aug 2006 01:38 GMT
> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2006_08_13_archive.html#115596649312576497
>
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> maker being hit by rising gasoline prices, of course--but articles like
> this one suggest that they are getting hit harder than GM and Chrysler:
<...>
> Okay, it is possible that Ford failed to respond as quickly as GM and
> Chrysler to all this--but there is a pretty major boycott of Ford under
> way at the moment--and I see no discussion of whether this might be
> contributing to their problems, relative to their American competitors:
Pretty major? How many people?
<...>
> At their stockholders meeting on May 11, Ford voted 95% of the ballots
> cast to continue their support of the homosexual agenda rather than be
> neutral in the cultural battle.
>
> The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
> the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
That has nothing to do with the fact that so many of Ford's vehicle are
gas-guzzling trucks, does it?
> Now, the AFA is going to take credit for this damage to Ford, both to
> make themselves look powerful, and to use it as leverage against Ford
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> or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> company can't be sitting well.
That explains why the Ford F-150 is the best selling truck in red-neck
america.
Jeff
petebert - 22 Aug 2006 02:56 GMT
who cares...
> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2006_08_13_archive.html#115596649312576497
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> or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> company can't be sitting well.
BDK - 22 Aug 2006 06:26 GMT
> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2006_08_13_archive.html#115596649312576497
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> or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
> company can't be sitting well.
I really don't understand why you would possibly care what people do in
their bedroom. What does it have to do with cars and trucks?
BDK
Jesse Gooch - 22 Aug 2006 07:55 GMT
>> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2006_08_13_archive.html#115596649312576497
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> BDK
Well, they could do it in a truck or car.
- --
Jesse Gooch
www.gooch.ws
I make no apologies for the travesties I post.
BDK - 22 Aug 2006 11:57 GMT
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I'm surprised that some kook hasn't come up with an anti sex device,
sold through churches to prevent themselves and their kids from using
the vehicle for "immoral purposes".
BDK
Jesse Gooch - 23 Aug 2006 02:42 GMT
> BDK wrote:
>>>> In article <1156191196.738311.170870@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
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>>>> BDK
> Well, they could do it in a truck or car.
> I'm surprised that some kook hasn't come up with an anti sex device,
> sold through churches to prevent themselves and their kids from using
> the vehicle for "immoral purposes".
> BDK
Where I'm from we call them 'angry fathers with guns'.
- --
Jesse Gooch
www.gooch.ws
I make no apologies for the travesties I post.
Rene Brehmer - 28 Aug 2006 21:19 GMT
Documented research indicate that on Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:26:01 -0400, BDK
wrote:
> I really don't understand why you would possibly care what people do in
> their bedroom. What does it have to do with cars and trucks?
Most likely the only thing it has to do with cars is that SoT still lives
in the back of his mom's van.
Roedy Green - 22 Aug 2006 08:03 GMT
On 21 Aug 2006 13:13:16 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :
>To show those supporting traditional marriage they mean business, Ford
>sponsored the June 6 issue of the homosexual publication The Advocate.
>The cover reads: "Polygamy & Gay Men. Dirty laundry or sexual freedom?
>How gay men handle multiple partners." The article promotes homosexual
>polygamy.
You are jumping to conclusions. Ford simply wanted to sell vehicles
to gays. The Advocate's a good place to place the ad.
By your logic every advertiser on FOX approves of incest because FOX
carries the Jerry Springer show.

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Picasso - 22 Aug 2006 09:54 GMT
What advertisement does this nonsense refer to? I haven't seen any
homosexual commercials for ford, and if i did, i wouldn't care. Doesn't
mean i'm gay. My god.
> On 21 Aug 2006 13:13:16 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
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> By your logic every advertiser on FOX approves of incest because FOX
> carries the Jerry Springer show.
GlassVial - 22 Aug 2006 16:23 GMT
>The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
>the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
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>or you buy Ford. Ford's continuing insistence on being the gay car
>company can't be sitting well.
As if we need another reason to boycott Ford. I had a Ford
once...never again. You couldn't give me one. My friend was recently
looking for a new car. The Ford Focus was on the list, until it was
test driven. It was the most uncomfortable chinsiest piece of sh.t
out of all the compact cars we test drove. Ended up getting a Hyundai
Elantra, with more features, better warranty, for less money! f.ck
you Fudge Packing Ford!
-GV
Picasso - 23 Aug 2006 01:49 GMT
Hyundai is a company who have drastically increased their quality
control, they are actually starting to make a competitive vehicle.
>> The boycott is working. The value of Ford stock has gone down 13% since
>> the boycott began, while sales continue to drop.
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>
> -GV
Mike Hunter - 24 Aug 2006 15:45 GMT
Why not post your crap in the Toyota NG? Toyota is running an ad in Canada
that shows two girls kissing in a Corolla, and Toyotas cost more than
comparable Fords ;)
mike hunt
> Hyundai is a company who have drastically increased their quality control,
> they are actually starting to make a competitive vehicle.
>> My friend was recently
Ended up getting a Hyundai
>> Elantra, with more features, better warranty, for less money! >> -GV
anarcissie@gmail.com - 24 Aug 2006 16:00 GMT
> Why not post your crap in the Toyota NG? Toyota is running an ad in Canada
> that shows two girls kissing in a Corolla, and Toyotas cost more than
> comparable Fords ;)
"Sound of Trumpet" is a spammer or troll. There is no use asking
him, her or it anything because there will be no reply. SoT
specializes in posting weird right-wing Christian, mostly Roman
Catholic screeds promoting facism, racism and homophobia.
Some people find them annoying but others think they are
entertaining. They certainly defame Christianity, which seems
to be okay with the Christians.
satyr - 27 Aug 2006 15:23 GMT
Because homosexual polygamists buy cars?

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