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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / September 2006

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04 taurus oil filter $55????

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mike - 30 Aug 2006 23:24 GMT
hey,

i had the oil changed today in my 04 taurus. the tech told me it was the
original filter which should be replaced every 15k miles (29k on the
odometer now).

price for the filter is $55 he told me? i told him to hold off on it? seems
high to me for an oil filter. was it an attempted screw job or is this the
going price?

thanks,

mike
mike - 31 Aug 2006 00:08 GMT
whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K. Discount
Auto Parts sells then for $18. guess i'l do it myself.

mike

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> mike
Picasso - 31 Aug 2006 00:47 GMT
I wouldn't bother replacing it every 15k kms though, i think that's
overkill.

Anyone else agree to that?

> whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K. Discount
> Auto Parts sells then for $18. guess i'l do it myself.
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>> mike
ShoeSalesman - 31 Aug 2006 03:11 GMT
> I wouldn't bother replacing it every 15k kms though, i think that's
> overkill.
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>>> mike

I would not let it go over 25K (miles) less if I thought the gas I was
using was dirty for some reason.....
Mortimer Schnerd, RN - 31 Aug 2006 03:12 GMT
> I wouldn't bother replacing it every 15k kms though, i think that's
> overkill.
>
> Anyone else agree to that?

You gotta be kidding.  I've replaced the fuel filter on my 2000 Taurus exactly
once in 88,000 miles.  I replace the oil and oil filter every 5,000 miles and
have used Mobil One exclusively in it since I got it.  Runs just fine....

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Bob - 31 Aug 2006 03:37 GMT
>I wouldn't bother replacing it every 15k kms though, i think that's
>overkill.
>
> Anyone else agree to that?

Ford recommends replacement at 30K miles.
trainfan1 - 05 Sep 2006 04:37 GMT
> I wouldn't bother replacing it every 15k kms though, i think that's
> overkill.
>
> Anyone else agree to that?

80K+ miles on my Taurus filter w/o problems...

Rob
Bruce L. Bergman - 31 Aug 2006 04:32 GMT
>whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K. Discount
>Auto Parts sells then for $18. guess i'l do it myself.

 A fuel filter every 15,000 miles?  Only if you lived on a private
island or in the middle of a desert/forest/farm in the middle of
nowhere, and all the fuel was trucked flown or shipped over in
5-gallon cans, and was several months old and going stale with some
varnish forming in it, AND the help was extremely sloppy about keeping
the fuel (and the empty cans going back for more) clean.

 That mechanic is fishing for profit, pure and simple.  To need them
that often you almost have to put the dirt in the tank on purpose.

 If you buy your fuel from reputable filling stations that sell
enough fuel volume to keep it fresh (most all get at least one
truckload a week, or they would be closed) and they take normal care
to keep their tanks and fuel clean even 30,000 miles would be
overkill, 60,000 would be more realistic.  A stretch to 90,000
wouldn't be out of line.

   --<< Bruce >>--
Bob - 31 Aug 2006 04:59 GMT
>>whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K.
>>Discount
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>    --<< Bruce >>--

Do you know what a plugged filter does to the pump? Do you know what a new
pump costs? Filters are cheap............
ShoeSalesman - 31 Aug 2006 07:29 GMT
>>> whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K.
>>> Discount
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> Do you know what a plugged filter does to the pump? Do you know what a new
> pump costs? Filters are cheap............

bazactly!
Bruce L. Bergman - 31 Aug 2006 15:49 GMT
>>>whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K.
>>>Discount
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>Do you know what a plugged filter does to the pump? Do you know what a new
>pump costs? Filters are cheap............

 But you still have to almost deliberately poison the fuel to clog a
filter that fast - gas stations have gotten vastly better at
protecting the fuel in the last 25 years with all the double-walled
tanks and piping systems, and vastly improved fill fittings and tank
truck equipment.  And they are running it through filters at the tank
farm fill bay and at the gas station.

 I'd still go with the Ford recommended 30K unless you suspect you've
gotten a few filthy fill-ups.

 --<< Bruce >>--
C. E. White - 31 Aug 2006 13:27 GMT
The Ford "Normal" Maintenance Schedule for a 2004 Taurus calls for fuel
filter replacement every 30,000 miles. If you do extensive idling and/or
driving at low speeds (i.e., Taxi or delivery service) or operate the
vehicle in dusty conditions Ford recommends fuel filter replacement every
15,000 miles. See
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/maintenance_schedules/GetYMM.asp .

It seems to me that Ford uses unusually restrictive fuel filters (or should
I say unusually fine mesh?). The ones on my Ford are at least four times as
big as the one on my SO's Chrysler mini van or my old Saturn Vue or my
Sister's Civic. Yet Ford recommends routine replacements at 30,000 intervals
(or 15,000 in many cases), while I can't even find a recommendation for
replacing the one on the Chrysler mini van or my Sisters Honda, and my
Saturn didn't recommend replacement until 100,000 miles (normal or severe
service).  However, both the Chrysler and Saturn had a different style
filter than the Ford filter. For the Ford fuel filter there is only one line
from the fuel tank (pump) and one outlet to the engine. For the Chrysler and
the Saturn, there are two connections back to the fuel tank. I wonder if
they don't somehow back flush the filter to prevent them from becoming
plugged. Does anyone know? On the other hand, for my Fords I can change the
fuel filter in about 10 minutes. Alldata allows 36 minutes to change the
Saturn fuel filter and claims the filter costs $27. This would mean that a
fuel filter replacement on the Saturn at my favorite shop would cost about
$60. I replaced the one on the Chrysler mini van and it was a bitch. I had
to lower the tank to disconnect on of the lines to the fuel tank and the
filter was the most complicated piece of crap I have ever seen (and you had
to get the right filter depending on whether you had a short or long van). I
suspect replacing that fuel filter at a shop would have been $100 job for
that van. The Honda fuel filter is easy (in the engine compartment, but
attached with screw fittings) but the filter is expensive. I am not sure
what they do, since they only have one inlet and one outlet like the Ford
fuel filter and the filter is tiny as well.

Ed

>>whoops. make it the fuel filter he said needs replacing every 15K.
>>Discount
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>    --<< Bruce >>--
Andy - 31 Aug 2006 00:43 GMT
>hey,
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>high to me for an oil filter. was it an attempted screw job or is this the
>going price?

$55 for an oil filter?  Thats outrageous!
Frank from Deeetroit - 31 Aug 2006 01:44 GMT
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> mike

Did you pay $55.00 for the oil change and filter?  Filters are usually under
$10.00 no matter where you buy one, at least around the Detroit area.  Check
your owners manual, for the amount of miles between changes.  I am, from the
old school, change the oil and filter every 3000 miles, or within 90 days,
whichever comes first.  Time is more important than the miles.
Bob Urz - 31 Aug 2006 03:41 GMT
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> mike

http://www.drivewire.com/fordparts/catalog/fordtaurusoilfilter.html

They sure cost a LOT!  ;)

Bob
JohanB - 31 Aug 2006 04:46 GMT
I would go with 30K, its not hundreds of dollars and knowing what kind of
damage a lean running engine can cause I would spend the money.

> hey,
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> mike
 
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