got a buddy with an 06 ranger, and to get around his limitation in
kilometers in his lease, he unhooked the fuse for the dash. Now when he
puts the fuse back in, the check engine light is on. He thinks the
truck is logging kilometers some other way than with hte odo on the
dash, and this check engine light has something to do with that.
I think it has something to do with another code popping up.
Anyway, Can anyone confirm this "fuse pulling" works.
Jim Warman - 04 Sep 2006 20:27 GMT
Well, other than us honest folks calling it "fraud"..... we sincerely hope
and pray that both you and your buddy fall victim to similar fraudulent
behaviour...
And, since it is OK for your buddy to do this, we don't expect you guys to
cry about it when it happens....
I hope you guys get your a.ses nailed to the wall....
> got a buddy with an 06 ranger, and to get around his limitation in
> kilometers in his lease, he unhooked the fuse for the dash. Now when he
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> Anyway, Can anyone confirm this "fuse pulling" works.
Picasso - 04 Sep 2006 23:35 GMT
Well first of all, you can stop talking about me in this. I own 3
vehicles, a snowmobile, and a fourwheeler, and i don't unhook any of
them, and i certainly don't roll mine back.
I was just asking a simple question, and legal or not, it still deserves
an answer. So as far as my balls being nailed to the wall, you can take
that back.
> Well, other than us honest folks calling it "fraud"..... we sincerely hope
> and pray that both you and your buddy fall victim to similar fraudulent
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>> Anyway, Can anyone confirm this "fuse pulling" works.
Jim Warman - 05 Sep 2006 01:48 GMT
Well. let's see... it looks to me like you are trying to help your buddy
commit fraud..... As far as I am concerned, I have given the answer that the
question deserves.
My Mum was Olde Englishe and would sometimes feel the need to utter "in for
a ha'penny, in for a pound..."... Rough translation is "a lie is a lie" and
there is little distinction between "big" and "small"..... and if that still
escapes you - a liar is a liar is a liar..... be it a "teeny weeny"
speedometer issue or a "rob a bank" deal.
It is you that has involved yourself into the equation.. you are now part of
the equation..... It's not about what you haven't done - it is about what
you are helping someone do....
I take nothing back and you are still implicating yourself in fraudulent
behaviour.....
FWIW, while there are some "bad" laws on the books, any law that protects a
consumer from fraud or theft can't be called "bad". The laws that you and
your buddy are trying to defeat are there to protect all of us... including
you and your buddy... And I'll bet that either one of you would cry loud and
long if you fell victim to someone as scummy as you are trying to be....
Picasso - 05 Sep 2006 01:56 GMT
Well don't worry about what is about to be done, because it was done
long before I asked the question. He simply asked me if there was any
other record of the mileage other than what is displayed on the odometer.
No Jimmy Boy, you can end it right now, your point is made, and I am no
longer listening to your banter. Go on and find something to do with
yourself.
> Well. let's see... it looks to me like you are trying to help your buddy
> commit fraud..... As far as I am concerned, I have given the answer that the
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> you and your buddy... And I'll bet that either one of you would cry loud and
> long if you fell victim to someone as scummy as you are trying to be....
zwsdotcom@gmail.com - 05 Sep 2006 01:58 GMT
> My Mum was Olde Englishe and would sometimes feel the need to utter "in for
> a ha'penny, in for a pound..."... Rough translation is "a lie is a lie" and
Nitpick: the usage of this phrase is nothing to do with erasing the
distinction between big and small, it's used to indicate that you're
investing yourself into an activity wholeheartedly and not pulling back
after an initial setback. For example, your friend asks you to help him
pull the engine from a car, you get there and it turns out the tranny
needs pulling as well - "in for a penny, in for a pound" you'd say as
you get to work on the second task.
C. E. White - 05 Sep 2006 05:06 GMT
> got a buddy with an 06 ranger, and to get around his limitation in
> kilometers in his lease, he unhooked the fuse for the dash. Now when he
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> Anyway, Can anyone confirm this "fuse pulling" works.
The PCM depends on the same signal as the odometer to determine vehicle
speed. Disabling the signal is screwing up the inputs to the PCM, thus the
check engine light. A local genius did something similar to his Dodge truck.
Instead of a fuse, he disconnected the electrical feed to the speedometer.
After he did this, the truck shifted poorly and the check engine light came
on. Like a real idiot, he took it to the dealership with the connector
unplugged and bitched an moaned about the shifting problem. The mechanic
"fixed" his problem by reconnecting the connector and logging the repair in
the Chrysler computer. The next time he tried to get warranty serviec on the
truck, Chrysler refused to pay becasue of the original fraud. Hopefully your
friend will get the same treatment from Ford.
If your freind wants a longer warranty or more lease miles, he can pay for
it. Disconnecting the odometer in an attempt to "extend" the warranty or
lease terms is just plain stealing.
Ed