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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / September 2006

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Ford has to stop putting family in CEO positions

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Saul - 06 Sep 2006 01:21 GMT
Just because he is the great grandfather of Henry Ford, he should be the
CEO.  Latest news states Bill Ford states  "the company had been caught off
guard by the speed of the consumer shift away from pickups and SUVs to more
fuel-efficient vehicles"
Is this guy an idiot or what?  High gas prices = low pickup sales.
Ford/GM/Chrylser..all get whats comming to them from the past

HAHAHHAHAHHA  die die die
John Horner - 06 Sep 2006 01:25 GMT
> Just because he is the great grandfather of Henry Ford, he should be the
> CEO.  Latest news states Bill Ford states  "the company had been caught off
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> HAHAHHAHAHHA  die die die

Well, you got your wish.  The new CEO has spent his entire career up
till now at Boeing.   How that qualifies him to run a large manufactured
consumer products company is beyond me.

John
Saul - 06 Sep 2006 01:32 GMT
He turned boeing around, thats how.. Does that qualify him., or perhaps if
his last name was ford, he would be qualified

LOL

>> Just because he is the great grandfather of Henry Ford, he should be the
>> CEO.  Latest news states Bill Ford states  "the company had been caught
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>
> John
John Horner - 06 Sep 2006 04:33 GMT
> He turned boeing around, thats how.. Does that qualify him., or perhaps if
> his last name was ford, he would be qualified
>
> LOL

I'm no Bill Ford fan, but I also am very skeptical of someone with no
experience in the kind of business Ford is in taking charge and making
things happen.   I also don't trust Bill Ford to hand pick a
replacement, which seems to be what he has done.

The board of directors at FOMOCO is ineffective in part because at the
end of the day the family does whatever they feel like doing even though
they only own 5% of the stock and only own that thanks to lucky births.

Nobody who knows what they are really doing is minding the store and the
board of directors is really a rubber stamp operation.

John
C. E. White - 06 Sep 2006 12:28 GMT
> I'm no Bill Ford fan, but I also am very skeptical of someone with no
> experience in the kind of business Ford is in taking charge and making
> things happen.   I also don't trust Bill Ford to hand pick a replacement,
> which seems to be what he has done.

In a way he is doing exactly what Henry Ford II did. After II took over the
company in the forties, he hired a bunch of military "geniuses" to run the
company (remember McNamara?). They more or less got the business end of
thing straightened out and eventually product guys moved back to the top.

And it wasn't Bill Ford that picked Nasser.

> The board of directors at FOMOCO is ineffective in part because at the end
> of the day the family does whatever they feel like doing even though they
> only own 5% of the stock and only own that thanks to lucky births.

And this is different from most US corporations in what way? I've seen
companies turned over to incompetent CEOs who cook the book to make
themselves look good while raking off millions (or even billions) and then
leave the company in shambles. It is unlikely Bill Ford will walk away. And
he isn't even taking a salary right now (not that he needs one).

> Nobody who knows what they are really doing is minding the store and the
> board of directors is really a rubber stamp operation.

Just like most large US corporations. When the economy is growing strongly
these guys look good. They are exposed as a bunch of rubber stamps when
thing get a little tight.

Ed
Mike Hunter - 06 Sep 2006 21:48 GMT
How much Ford stock do you own, that you get to attend board meetings?

mike

>> He turned boeing around, thats how.. Does that qualify him., or perhaps
>> if his last name was ford, he would be qualified
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>
> John
John Horner - 07 Sep 2006 00:16 GMT
> How much Ford stock do you own, that you get to attend board meetings?
>
> mike

I made no claim about attending board meetings.  My conclusions and
inferences are based on the announced results of those meetings.  If you
are looking for insider information I'm afraid you need to look elsewhere.

John
Jim Warman - 07 Sep 2006 08:17 GMT
Sometimes we need to take a step back..... the bottom line is customer
satisfaction. We often see those with good product knowledge screw up real
bad..... Fresh blood just may be the answer... someone that hasn't been
"jaded" by the system.

Our service manager doesn't know squat about cars.... she does understand
customers..... and we are better for it...

>> He turned boeing around, thats how.. Does that qualify him., or perhaps
>> if his last name was ford, he would be qualified
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> John
Jeff - 08 Sep 2006 23:30 GMT
> Sometimes we need to take a step back..... the bottom line is customer
> satisfaction. We often see those with good product knowledge screw up real
> bad..... Fresh blood just may be the answer... someone that hasn't been
> "jaded" by the system.

Bottom line is how much money they make. They can sell the cars for $1000,
provide 100 year/1,000,000 mile warranties and free gas for life. They'll
get great costumer satisfaction.

But they'll go broke.

Costumer satisfaction is a very important part of what they need to do, but
the bottom line, their profit, is what counts.

Jeff

> Our service manager doesn't know squat about cars.... she does understand
> customers..... and we are better for it...
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>> John
Jeff - 06 Sep 2006 01:29 GMT
> Just because he is the great grandfather of Henry Ford, he should be the
> CEO.  Latest news states Bill Ford states  "the company had been caught
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>
> HAHAHHAHAHHA  die die die

1) The Ford family owns a lot of the stock.

2) A lot of people were caught off-guard. Ford and a lot of other people
didn't expect the price of gas to rise so fast. It is a valid statement.

Jeff
Saul - 06 Sep 2006 01:35 GMT
Caught off guard?  Are you kidding me or what?  American consumptiopn is
growing, India and Chian and a host of other comming online competing with
the US for oil...
Aside from the lage oil find today, where do you think new oil is comming
from?
All Ford could do is sell pickups.  period. The Asisn are kicking Ford arse
all over this country.  His grandfather is responsible for the downfall of
Ford, not having the brains to look foward, and look aside at the aisians
comming...

HAHAHHAHAHHA

> 2) A lot of people were caught off-guard. Ford and a lot of other people
> didn't expect the price of gas to rise so fast. It is a valid statement.
>
> Jeff
Saul - 06 Sep 2006 01:38 GMT
Hey, does Bill Ford have a 25 year son? Perhaps he can be the new CEO to
'take on the Japenese"

LOL

> Caught off guard?  Are you kidding me or what?  American consumptiopn is
> growing, India and Chian and a host of other comming online competing with
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>> Jeff
Gosi - 16 Sep 2006 07:53 GMT
Ford and GM are heading down a slippery slope - and faster every month
now

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K5PA700.htm
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/05/31/109507.html

Ford's method of slashing its labor force is similar to cuts made
earlier this year by larger rival General Motors Corp. At GM, 34,410
hourly workers have accepted buyouts or early retirement offers, and
the company cut 2,000 salaried workers.

Ford, GM and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler unit are struggling with the
need to reduce their so-called "legacy costs" of big pay and benefits
packages for workers and retirees.

> Hey, does Bill Ford have a 25 year son? Perhaps he can be the new CEO to
> 'take on the Japenese"
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> >> Jeff
 
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