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66 Ford master cylinder upgrade

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big e lewis - 14 Sep 2006 02:24 GMT
Thanks to all who responded to my last post about the car I'm getting. I
have another question, this car is a 66 LTD 2 door, 289 v-8 automatic.
The brake master cylinder is the single reservoir type, manual / no
power booster, and 4 wheel drum brakes. I'm not too worried about
switching the front drums to disc.... a nice upgrade, but not totally
necessary.... but I do want to change over to a dual reservoir master
cylinder set-up. Manual brakes are ok, power would be better, but I
don't like the idea of blowing a brake line and losing ALL brakes! Did
that once with a 66 Impala, and don't want that experience again!
Anybody have any suggestions, or links to sites that may help? Thank
you, Earl
Frank from Deeetroit - 14 Sep 2006 12:34 GMT
> Thanks to all who responded to my last post about the car I'm getting. I
> have another question, this car is a 66 LTD 2 door, 289 v-8 automatic.
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> Anybody have any suggestions, or links to sites that may help? Thank
> you, Earl

Your current brake lines leads from the master cylinder to a fitting that
splits the master cylinder line from one to three, one for the rear, and one
each to the front brakes.  Swapping out the old master cylinder for a new
dual chamber is an easy swap

Find yourself a dual chamber master cylinder from a car with front and rear
drum brakes.  Buy two brake lines, the proper fittings and swap out the
parts and you will be in business.  My local NAPA store has all of the
fittings and brakes lines.  You will also need a brake line tube bender to
bend the lines.

For my disc swap, I purchased some of the parts from MP Brakes
http://www.mpbrakes.com/  Check out their website and look for their
catalog.  The catalog has technical info that will help you.

Frank
big e lewis - 14 Sep 2006 13:26 GMT
Any ideas on what master cylinder in particular would bolt onto the
firewall and pedal assembly? Lines are no problem, but I want something
that doesn't require a bunch of mods to the firewall or pedal. I'm
thinking maybe a later year, same body style car, like a 69, but does
anyone know if the mounting is the same? Thanks, Earl
veegerNO SPAM@snowcrest.net - 14 Sep 2006 19:48 GMT
>Thanks to all who responded to my last post about the car I'm getting. I
>have another question, this car is a 66 LTD 2 door, 289 v-8 automatic.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Anybody have any suggestions, or links to sites that may help? Thank
>you, Earl
Swap is pretty straight forward. Mine bolted in with no bolt pattern
changes required. Adding the power booster was just as simple.

Since this car is an OEM from disc rear drum, I needed a proportioning
valve. Got an adjustable and added it in next to the dual master so
it's easy to find and adjust without having to go under the car where
the original was located half way between the master and the
differential.

Check the brake conversion sites for tech sections (www.ssbc.com etc,
or check pubs like www.mustangmonthly.com, or www.mustangandfords.com
for articles on brake system upgrades.
--

Spike
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Tom - 14 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
yup. very easy conversion from mayo jar master to power dual bowl master. if
I remember correctly, you want a master and power booster from a 68 mustang.

>>Thanks to all who responded to my last post about the car I'm getting. I
>>have another question, this car is a 66 LTD 2 door, 289 v-8 automatic.
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Tom Adkins - 16 Sep 2006 06:44 GMT
> Thanks to all who responded to my last post about the car I'm getting. I
> have another question, this car is a 66 LTD 2 door, 289 v-8 automatic.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Anybody have any suggestions, or links to sites that may help? Thank
> you, Earl

 You've had some good suggestions, but I'd like to add another. 1968 was the first
year for dual system brakes IIRC. The 1968 Galaxie was mechanically (nearly) identical
to the 1966, the drum-drum brakes were the same except for the dual hydraulic system.
Parts for a 1968 Custom or Galaxie with drums on all 4 wheels is a bolt on upgrade.
You will need the master cylinder, booster for power, proportioning valve, and pedal
rod for the power brakes (the rod on manual brakes is part of the MC, separate for
power). The only fabrication is the metal lines. An OEM proportioning valve is going
to be hard to come by, but there are aftermarket adjustable valves available. It can
be done without the prop valve, just leaving the front and rear separate. It gets a
little tricky to set up and the rear brakes have to be adjusted loose. I don't
recommend it.
 Through the years I've had 4 1966 Galaxies and 2 1967 Galaxies in various trim at
various times, usually XL or 7 Litre. I lost the first 66 XL due to the single circuit
brake system. After that the others were converted to the 68 (dual) system after I
found out how easy it was. A weekend in the garage and I had a "modern" safe brake system.

 On a personal note, the 1966 2 door fullsize Ford was one of the prettiest Ford cars
ever made IMHO. Rivalled only by the 63 Fastback ;).
 
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