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Help: Ford Experts: 1998 Taurus BCM problem?

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Bill - 16 Sep 2006 15:37 GMT
Gentlemen (and women),

Vehicle:
1998 Ford Taurus SE, 3.0L OHV, 130K miles.
I do not know if it is Flex or non Flex fuel.
I believe it has ORVR (onboard refueling vapor recovery).

The problem:
The car has a high idle (1100-1500 rpms) and it up shifts badly and feels like
it is slipping between all gears. The final downshift when coming to a stop is
always a clunk. The engine however runs good. No codes, except for an
occasional P11744.

I scanned the BCM and at KOEO it shows 18% TPS. This is true if the TSP is
installed or unstalled in the car. I tested the TPS both on the car and off and
it is good. The TPS connector has 5.1V supply. Operating the TSP by throttle
pedal with the connector backprobed and KOEO yeilds .9V at closed throttle and
4.6V at WOT.

I also checked the wiring for grounding at the BCM connector at pins 89, 90,
and 91. Also there is no shorting between pins 71 and 89.

Questions:

How can I determine that the BCM is the correct one for the car. See
http://www.glocktech.net/b/ for BCM lable. It is possible that the engine was
replaced sometime before I bought it.

I bought a reman Cardone BCM for O'Reilly's (78-8250) based on the data from
the BCM label on the existing unit and the Calibration label in the engine
compartment. BUT, the car still showed 18% TPS at closed throttle, and the
transmission REALLY shifted badly or not at all. Plus the A/C quit working. I
took it back to O'Riellys and put the old BCM back in.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Bill
Backyard Mechanic - 16 Sep 2006 15:54 GMT
> Gentlemen (and women),
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> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Disconnect the IAC and see where it idles.

I think you are relying too much on instrumentation.  Suppose that the CM
sets up for cold start at KOEO... what virtual value might it supply for
initial crank/start?!!!

Transmission.. who knows.. solve idle problem first.

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Bill - 17 Sep 2006 03:08 GMT
>Disconnect the IAC and see where it idles.
>
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>Transmission.. who knows.. solve idle problem first.

Thanks Krusty. I did check the TSP % after closed loop mode and it also was
18%.

I will try the IAC disconnect tomorrow.

Bill
Backyard Mechanic - 17 Sep 2006 13:49 GMT
Here's the point... while it's sort of splitting hairs, I would bet that
95% of Engine Control related failures are mechanical in nature, not
'electronic'

I use as the definer, something that you can cause to change or vary by
touch, or cleaning.  

Wiring faults are 'mechanical' by the way.

>>Disconnect the IAC and see where it idles.
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> Bill

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Bill - 17 Sep 2006 20:01 GMT
Yes, it is the IAC (or the signal voltage from the PCM).  I pulled the
connector, and voila, perfect idle! It also shifts much better.

Thanks for the info.

>Here's the point... while it's sort of splitting hairs, I would bet that
>95% of Engine Control related failures are mechanical in nature, not
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>> Bill
Bob - 18 Sep 2006 03:20 GMT
You  SHOULD NOT have a perfect idle with the IAC unplugged. It should idle
low or stall. Maybe you have a vacuum leak?

> Yes, it is the IAC (or the signal voltage from the PCM).  I pulled the
> connector, and voila, perfect idle! It also shifts much better.
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>>> Bill
 
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