I have a 2000 Mazda Protege, automatic. I've been having a problem with
my gear shift; at least, I think that's what the problem is. Whenever
it's fairly cool (less than 60 degrees) and dark outside, my car won't
shift out of park. It's as if it doesn't realize that I have my foot on
the brake. Sometimes if I stomp on the brake, that will work, but not
always. Right now, the sun comes up over my apartment building and hits
my car between 8 and 8:30 am (depending on my parking spot). Literally
minutes later, my car will work fine. Any suggestions on what the
problem might be? Thanks!
> I have a 2000 Mazda Protege, automatic. I've been having a problem with
> my gear shift; at least, I think that's what the problem is. Whenever
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> minutes later, my car will work fine. Any suggestions on what the
> problem might be? Thanks!
Being a Protege it's similar to an Escort, so I won't smack your hand for posting on
a Ford group ;)
The problem is in the shift interlock. It's a solenoid and linkage on the shifter
that is controlled by the brake lamp switch. Usually this symptom points to a problem
with the brake lamp switch, BUT, I had a lot of experience with these cars some years
ago. They do not like sugary drinks spilled into the shifter mechanism. It will goop
up the interlock linkage every time. Soda pop, coffee, sports drinks etc. runs right
down into the shifter if dribbled or spilled. It mixes with the lubricant and forms
sticky "goo". When warm, the goo thins slightly and the interlock mechanism will work.
When cool, the goo prevents it from moving.
When you step lightly on the brake with the key on, you will hear a faint click
from the shifter area. Put your ear right down by the console. This indicates the
interlock is trying to work. To check for goo, I recall that you need to remove the
center console first. I don't think the selector housing will come off first. Solvents
won't cut the sticky stuff, soap and water works best. I used to remove the entire
shifter and scrub it in the mop sink with a brush and Dawn dish soap. Remove the
interlock solenoid first and clean it separately so water doesn't get in.
Jeff - 01 Oct 2006 04:31 GMT
>> I have a 2000 Mazda Protege, automatic. I've been having a problem with
>> my gear shift; at least, I think that's what the problem is. Whenever
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> every time. Soda pop, coffee, sports drinks etc. runs right down into the
> shifter if dribbled or spilled.
Sounds like a reason to drink diet soda, which has no sugar, so it won't
goop up the mechanism as much. ;-)
plus, it helps with preventing diabetes and early death.
Jeff
> It mixes with the lubricant and forms sticky "goo". When warm, the goo
> thins slightly and the interlock mechanism will work. When cool, the goo
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> mop sink with a brush and Dawn dish soap. Remove the interlock solenoid
> first and clean it separately so water doesn't get in.
Tom Adkins - 01 Oct 2006 05:22 GMT
> Sounds like a reason to drink diet soda, which has no sugar, so it won't
> goop up the mechanism as much. ;-)
>
> plus, it helps with preventing diabetes and early death.
>
> Jeff
I drink diet soda (Diet Pepsi fan since the saccharin days) for the reasons that you
mention, but, diet soda gets really sticky when it dries too, you should see my
computer desk... hmm... Never really thought about why, but it does.
Darn you Jeff, now I have to figure out why diet soda gets sticky when it
dries...Aarghhh... Then I'll have to buy a Protege and pour it into the shifter to see
if it gums up the works like regular soda... Then compare different brands of diet
soda for stickiness... then...
If only I had tasted the different goo from all of those Mazda shifters back then to
see what it was made of, I could have saved myself some work now. ;)
Backyard Mechanic - 01 Oct 2006 15:33 GMT
>> Sounds like a reason to drink diet soda, which has no sugar, so it
>> won't goop up the mechanism as much. ;-)
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> shifters back then to
> see what it was made of, I could have saved myself some work now. ;)
Or.. you could just get a packet of the pink stuff, mix it with 1/4 oz of
water and pour it on your keyboard.. same effect and costs less than a
car.

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vgmgc@cox.net - 01 Oct 2006 16:25 GMT
Well, I could see how spilling something would cause the problem, but
I've never spilt anything on it. Unless the previous owner did so, but
then wouldn't it have been a problem since I bought the car a year ago?