>I have a 1988 5.0 out of a LTD that I want to put in my 1968 Ranchero. But I
>want to use the old pulleys from the old engine. Can I use the old water
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>Terry
>> I have a 1988 5.0 out of a LTD that I want to put in my 1968 Ranchero. But I
>> want to use the old pulleys from the old engine. Can I use the old water
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> Lugnut
Hey lugnut,
The biggest reason to use the "old " accessory system is that his existing timing
cover has different mount points for the accessories and his 1988 (EFI) timing cover
doesn't have a hole for the fuel pump to mount to. He'd have to find a 1979 or later
timing cover from a carbureted vehicle, pretty tough these days (late 80s VV equipped
cop car? IIRC those were the last) Other than that, I agree that the newer PS pump,
alternator, and serpentine belt system is way preferable.
Terry, if you swap the timing covers, make sure the camshaft on the 88 motor has
the fuel pump eccentric bolted to it. It looks like a metal cup bolted to the front of
the camshaft timing gear, look at your old motor. Many EFI motors (all that I've ever
seen) still had it bolted on there, but Ford may have deleted it at some point. Better
safe than sorry.
Terry Kangas - 04 Oct 2006 13:38 GMT
Thanks for all the input.
Long story , short,,, bought the 5.0 first, it came with all the accesories
and wiring. Then picked up a 1988 5.0 HO with an AOD transmission, but no
accesories out of a Lincoln. So I'm putting the HO in my wifes Jag with the
accesories and wiring from the 5.0 and the 5.0 into my Ranchero which had a
bad engine. Naturally the engine swap budget is going to favor the wife's
jag, so I'm trying to keep costs down on the Ranchero. That's why I'm trying
to use the old 302 accesories and pulleys on the 5.0 engine. I've redrilled
the crankshaft v-belt pulley to fit on the 5.0 balancer, but if I use the
5.0 water pump it will turn backwards, so thats why I wanted to use the old
302 water pump. I can get an electric fuel pump fairly cheap, and I've lined
up a 4-barrel intake manifold ($20.00) and 600 cfm Holley ($1.00) that way I
won't need to change the front cover. I hope! Any thing I'm missing here?
Oh and when I'm done with these, I've got a 1956 Willys pickup that needs a
new engine. I'm thinking about a ford flathead v-8. I've seen it done and it
looks like it was made for the truck. Hoping to retire in a couple of years
so I can devote more time to important things like this!!!
thanks, Terry
> >> I have a 1988 5.0 out of a LTD that I want to put in my 1968 Ranchero. But I
> >> want to use the old pulleys from the old engine. Can I use the old water
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> seen) still had it bolted on there, but Ford may have deleted it at some point. Better
> safe than sorry.
Tom Adkins - 03 Oct 2006 15:45 GMT
> Thanks for all the input.
>
> Long story , short...
The old accessories won't bolt up to the new style timing cover. There are other
differences also. Its been quite some time since I've actually swapped a 1979+ 5.0
into an older car so I'm vague on the details. The one thing I know for certain is
that if you use the old accessories, you have to use the old timing cover due to the
different accessory mount points and pulley alignment issues. You're not saving
anything by reusing the new style cover. The gasket set is ~$10-15.
Just a note on the HO\AOD combo from the Lincoln... If it is from a Mark VII the
trans is ~1" longer overall than all other AODs of that vintage. It's unique to the
Mark VII. Make sure to figure this into your calculations for drive shaft length. The
difference is in the tail shaft and housing.
lugnut - 04 Oct 2006 14:28 GMT
>>> I have a 1988 5.0 out of a LTD that I want to put in my 1968 Ranchero. But I
>>> want to use the old pulleys from the old engine. Can I use the old water
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>seen) still had it bolted on there, but Ford may have deleted it at some point. Better
>safe than sorry.
You are correct, Tom. There are quite a few details I
didn't even start to cover or even think about at the time
of my response. I think if it were mine, and it is intended
to be a daily driver, I would use as musch of the more
modern stuff including the EFI system as possible. A bit
more work perhaps but very rewarding results. A local
fellow built a "66 Stang 2+2 a few years ago using a '92
Stang donor for everything he could including the 5 speed
which he later upgraded to an aftermarket 6 speed unit. He
got great satisfaction driving the car almost every day and
took great pleasure in nailing a coupe of late model "Stangs
in the stop light gran prix. He also was getting much
better fuel mileage than the original
Lugnut
Tom Adkins - 03 Oct 2006 15:07 GMT
> ...I think if it were mine, and it is intended
to be a daily driver, I would use as musch of the more
modern stuff including the EFI system as possible. A bit
more work perhaps but very rewarding results....
Absolutely.