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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / November 2006

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98 Grand Marquis rattle in exhaust system

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mstrspy - 23 Nov 2006 00:50 GMT
My 98 Grand Marquis  makes a rattleing noise when the engine runs. It
would seem that there is something loose inside the muffler. Anyone
know what it could be? It is not a rattle due to going over bumps. It
ocurs due to pressure in the exhaust system.
Jim Warman - 23 Nov 2006 06:28 GMT
Some of the problems....

Most common is a rusted heatshield or band clamp... the only way is to look
and listen.....

Also possible.... broken catalyst monolith orruted baffle in the muffler....
again, there is a need to look and listen.

The internet is an aid - not a replacement....

> My 98 Grand Marquis  makes a rattleing noise when the engine runs. It
> would seem that there is something loose inside the muffler. Anyone
> know what it could be? It is not a rattle due to going over bumps. It
> ocurs due to pressure in the exhaust system.
mstrspy - 23 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
The broken catalyst monlith  is a god bet becase I get a check engine
lijght that indicates  insuficient catalyst.

>Some of the problems....
>
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>> know what it could be? It is not a rattle due to going over bumps. It
>> ocurs due to pressure in the exhaust system.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 23 Nov 2006 18:47 GMT
> The broken catalyst monlith  is a god bet becase I get a check engine
> lijght that indicates  insuficient catalyst.

Or one of the air tubes going into that cat is rotted off or broken,
rattling?  Someone please stop me if I am incorrect, but I think the
oxygen IS the catalyst?  Which if correct would lead me to believe not
enough air is getting into the cat (insufficient catalyst)?  Definately
needs a visual inspection.  I had to fix these years ago, forget if
there were any codes involved.
Happy Traveler - 23 Nov 2006 20:15 GMT
The catalyst is a small amount of noble metal inside the converter; it
promotes, but does not combine in the oxidation process.
In the early days of emission controls Ford had external air delivered to
the catalytic converters and a pump that provided it (called 'thermactor').
You will find that in my 1985 LTD, but it has been abandoned long before the
1998 model of the OP came out.

> Or one of the air tubes going into that cat is rotted off or broken,
> rattling?  Someone please stop me if I am incorrect, but I think the
> oxygen IS the catalyst?  Which if correct would lead me to believe not
> enough air is getting into the cat (insufficient catalyst)?
mstrspy - 24 Nov 2006 01:21 GMT
How do I inspect this? If I crawl under he car, would I be able to see
the broken piece or is it internal?

>> The broken catalyst monlith  is a god bet becase I get a check engine
>> lijght that indicates  insuficient catalyst.
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>needs a visual inspection.  I had to fix these years ago, forget if
>there were any codes involved.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 24 Nov 2006 06:14 GMT
> How do I inspect this? If I crawl under he car, would I be able to see
> the broken piece or is it internal?

Sorry, Happy Traveler shot my theory full of holes for your car/year.
Figures, since when I fixed this problem it was on a 1986 Ford Escort.
mstrspy - 24 Nov 2006 21:49 GMT
It sure seems suspicious that I get a rattle in the exhaust system
when the engine is running and I get the code "insufficient catalyst".
Is there an O2 sensor tht could be broken and flapping in the breeze?.
This car has 2 cats and I hoping that I don't need t replace both.  
By the way, the engine runs great and gets good fuel economy,
insufficinet catalyst or not.
M

>> How do I inspect this? If I crawl under he car, would I be able to see
>> the broken piece or is it internal?
>
>Sorry, Happy Traveler shot my theory full of holes for your car/year.
>Figures, since when I fixed this problem it was on a 1986 Ford Escort.
Tom Adkins - 24 Nov 2006 23:29 GMT
> It sure seems suspicious that I get a rattle in the exhaust system
> when the engine is running and I get the code "insufficient catalyst".
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> insufficinet catalyst or not.
> M

 One of your catalysts has broken apart internally and the parts are rattling around
inside. Smack each converter with a rubber mallet, you'll find out which one it is
pretty quick. The fault code definition will tell you also. Bank 1 is the right side,
bank 2 is the left side.
Happy Traveler - 25 Nov 2006 00:03 GMT
The defective catalytic converter has nothing to do with your engine's
performance or fuel economy. It has to do with the air we all breathe. The
code you see is from an 'open loop monitor' of the exhaust stream. The
engine management computer does not use it for anything, except for letting
you (and the emissions inspector perhaps) that something is amiss.

> It sure seems suspicious that I get a rattle in the exhaust system
> when the engine is running and I get the code "insufficient catalyst".
> Is there an O2 sensor tht could be broken and flapping in the breeze?.
> This car has 2 cats and I hoping that I don't need t replace both.
> By the way, the engine runs great and gets good fuel economy,
> insufficinet catalyst or not.
 
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