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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / March 2007

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Tire Pressure and Milage

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Bob Brown - 29 Mar 2007 06:42 GMT
I deflated all 4 tires by 10 pounds. Did a test run and noticed a drop
of 3 mpg, yes I said "three miles per gallon", and it was city
driving.

I then took another 10 out, making it 20 lbs less than factory spec,
and my MPG dropped another [2], so a total of 5 mpg.

Sum up:I could drive the car all the time with 20 pounds low of air in
each tire and only suffer 5 mpg.

Yeah, keep them inflated like they say...sure it saves money.

I guess if proper inflation saves money then over-inflation would EARN
MONEY/>?

Spec is 35 psi, so 40 psi would make me money. I might try that.
thanks for listening.
MasterBlaster - 29 Mar 2007 10:40 GMT
> I deflated all 4 tires by 10 pounds. Did a test run and noticed a drop
> of 3 mpg, yes I said "three miles per gallon", and it was city
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>
> Yeah, keep them inflated like they say...sure it saves money.

Helps spread the wear across the whole tire, instead of the outer 3/4",
which would have you replacing tires at least twice as often.

Helps keep the sidewalls from excessive flexing, which would heat the
tires more than normal, killing them sooner.

Helps keep the wheels from bashing the ground over speed bumps and
potholes, which would have you replacing much more expensive wheels.

Helps the car to handle properly, instead of wallowing and swaying, causing
passengers to puke all over the interior, which you'd have to pay to clean.

Money not spent unnecessarily IS money saved.
Bob Brown - 30 Mar 2007 04:27 GMT
>> I deflated all 4 tires by 10 pounds. Did a test run and noticed a drop
>> of 3 mpg, yes I said "three miles per gallon", and it was city
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>
>Money not spent unnecessarily IS money saved.

So I buy extra tires? Is that the new"reasoning" behind inflating
those tires?

What is the new excuse for wipers?
Jim Warman - 30 Mar 2007 07:58 GMT
You've either forgotten your meds or you are nucking futs... You're driving
around on 4 tires with about 10 or 15 PSI in them? You drop the pressure 10
PSI and the mileage goes down.... so you drop the pressure another ten
hoping for what? Winning a Darwin? Levitation?

Try this on for size... Proper tire inflation is a specific number.... it is
the inflation pressure that matches your driving environment (high speeds =
higher temps = pressure gain)... your load (the idea is to present a flat
tread surface to the road) and not being an abject idiot to simple physical
properties... and. to some part. the road surface itself.

Having said that, how long was this "test run" and how was fuel mileage
calculated....

Am I the only one that recalls Explorers and low tire pressures?

>I deflated all 4 tires by 10 pounds. Did a test run and noticed a drop
> of 3 mpg, yes I said "three miles per gallon", and it was city
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> Spec is 35 psi, so 40 psi would make me money. I might try that.
> thanks for listening.
Tom - 30 Mar 2007 10:28 GMT
i like to use the "chalk line" for proper tire inflation.
by using chalk, i have found the proper tire inflation for my diesel is 55
lbs front, and 35 lbs rear.
and my crown vic likes 35 front and 30 rear.
> You've either forgotten your meds or you are nucking futs... You're
> driving around on 4 tires with about 10 or 15 PSI in them? You drop the
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>> Spec is 35 psi, so 40 psi would make me money. I might try that.
>> thanks for listening.
Bob Brown - 30 Mar 2007 20:03 GMT
>Having said that, how long was this "test run" and how was fuel mileage
>calculated....

Miles/gallons of gas= mpg
Done with 150 tests for both cases.

>Am I the only one that recalls Explorers and low tire pressures?

Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
for mega-corporations?
Tom - 30 Mar 2007 21:36 GMT
defective tires had nothing to do with it. the problem was with idiot
drivers, driving on half flat tires. the tires would overheat and pop, or
the idiot drivers would do something stupid like jerk the steering wheel and
it would go over.

>>Am I the only one that recalls Explorers and low tire pressures?
>
> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
> for mega-corporations?
Bob Brown - 31 Mar 2007 04:42 GMT
>defective tires had nothing to do with it. the problem was with idiot
>drivers, driving on half flat tires. the tires would overheat and pop, or
>the idiot drivers would do something stupid like jerk the steering wheel and
>it would go over.

Amazing, and 99% of the cases involved the SAME type of vehicle and
SAME brand/type of Tire? That is just amazing how that worked out.

ALSO:Is it common to need to inflate your tires or even check the
pressure on a new or even two year old vehicle?

Are you a corporate lawyer?

>>>Am I the only one that recalls Explorers and low tire pressures?
>>
>> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
>> for mega-corporations?
Jim Warman - 31 Mar 2007 05:38 GMT
In a perfect world, there would be no need to inspect ones tires on a
regular basis..... However, most of us live in a world where there may be
sharp things on the road or in an area where there may be high levels of
ground level ozone or any number of other outside influences on tire life
(gee, and I didn't even mention wheel alignment concerns from potholes or
other impediments).

The automobile is a machine and should be regarded as a machine.... even to
the point where at least those items that affect the safety of the vehicle
are concerned. Oddly, tires are one such area. To blindly believe that
nothing can go wrong even with something brand new is foolhardy at best.

FWIW, IIRC a large part of the Explorer concern was setting factory
inflation pressure at 26 PSI.... A 20% loss in inflation pressure put these
tires in a dangerous situation regarding sidewall flex and heat generation.

I don't think that we have many corporate lawyers on this NG... but we do
have a lot of folks that don't have their head up their a.s....
Tom - 31 Mar 2007 13:14 GMT
nope. not a corporate lawyer.
but then again, i am not a rectal orifice like you either.
just an ordinary Joe on the street. that knows that you should check you air
pressure in your tires at least once a week, and fill the tires to the
proper pressure as needed.

and you know what?? i had an explorer with those tires, and 2 rangers with
those tires, and know a lot of others that had explorers and rangers with
those tires, and we never had any problems with them, cause we kept the tire
pressure set.

>>defective tires had nothing to do with it. the problem was with idiot
>>drivers, driving on half flat tires. the tires would overheat and pop, or
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>>> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
>>> for mega-corporations?
Bob Brown - 31 Mar 2007 21:18 GMT
>nope. not a corporate lawyer.
>but then again, i am not a rectal orifice like you either.
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>those tires, and we never had any problems with them, cause we kept the tire
>pressure set.

Wait a little longer...

>>>defective tires had nothing to do with it. the problem was with idiot
>>>drivers, driving on half flat tires. the tires would overheat and pop, or
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>>> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
>>>> for mega-corporations?
Jim Warman - 31 Mar 2007 21:46 GMT
And we are waiting for?????

Sanity will have us inspect our machines (yes, your car is a machine) for
defects on a regular basis... In case you haven't noticed - sh.t happens....

We have the choice of looking for incipient concerns or waiting for the tow
truck (or ambulance)....

New is simply a term for "previously unused".

>>nope. not a corporate lawyer.
>>but then again, i am not a rectal orifice like you either.
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>>>>> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
>>>>> for mega-corporations?
Tom - 31 Mar 2007 22:08 GMT
ya know Jim, i think mr brown has replaced hurc as the new newsgroup troll.
no one can be that stupid and pigheaded, but he sure is trying
> And we are waiting for?????
>
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>>>>>> Defective tires. Nothing to do with pressure. Are you a trial lawyer
>>>>>> for mega-corporations?
 
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