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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / May 2007Ford's support of Homosexuality hurting sales
There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So last month their sales performance was again one of the worst in the industry. Will management and the stockholders ever wake up? >>> Ford sales analyst George Pipas acknowledged that April was a "challenging" month. "Most of the shortfall to our expectations as well as our expectations for the industry were on the retail side," he said in a call following the report. "However, on balance, we believe we are making progress toward improving the profitability of our business in North America. Pipas said retail sales fell 17% while fleet sales slipped 5%. Car sales, suffering from the absence of the Taurus sedan, took the brunt of the blame, down 23.6% to 80,732, while the truck side fared better, down 5.8% to 147,891 vehicles. Sales of the flagship F-Series pickup shed 12.4% to 56,692 trucks. In the luxury Premier Auto Group, Jaguar and Volvo endured double-digit declines while Land Rover saw its sales jump 12.7% thanks to demand for the LR2 SUV. Wall Street had forecast a seasonally adjusted annual sales rate of 16 million vehicles, according to Thomson Financial. GM sales analyst Paul Ballew said the SAAR was shaping up to be about 16.3 million light vehicles. "Final numbers as they play themselves out for the month are probably not as severe as some observers were stating mid-month or guesstimating as the month was unfolding," he said.<<< > There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and > aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So > last month their sales performance was again one of the worst in the > industry. Will management and the stockholders ever wake up? > > What twaddle. > > There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and > > aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So > > last month their sales performance was again one of the worst in the > > industry. Will management and the stockholders ever wake up? > > What twaddle. Don't you mean twat-tle? Not really, but you can read about it here: http://boycottford.com/ Especially note the Ford dealers who have written Ford asking them to stop because it is hurting their sales. >> There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and >> aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What twaddle. > Not really, but you can read about it here: > > http://boycottford.com/ Thanks for that weblink, certainly made me more likely to buy a Ford in future. Oh, and how do you explain the fact that Ford's sales are down in England too, despite the fact we've had legal gay partnerships for a couple of years now (with no problems or conflicts with regular marriage as far as I can see) and no such campaign is operating over here? Although I am reluctant to encourage off-topic discussion on any group you also might care to explain just how gay marriage would hurt you, personally? Because it does not personally hurt me does not mean I or anyone else has to accept it. Homosexuality in wrong. Forget religion in the argument, it is against nature. Pedophilia does not hurt me personally, but it is wrong and illegal. And homosexuals promoting NAMBLA are wrong. There is no proof homosexuality is genetic. In fact, it may have been proven that it is not genetic. One of the networks did a program within the past year on homosexuality and one thing they looked at were identical twins. Genetically, identical twins are the same so if, as they showed, one twin was homosexual and the other was a normal heterosexual, then it cannot be genetic. There has also been other studies showing it may be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain just like many other mental illnesses. So maybe the old belief that homosexuality is a mental illness may not be too far off. Finally, a company should get involved in promoting immoral behavior. If anything, they just need to stay neutral. Ford has been aggressively promoting and sponsoring homosexual groups and promoting the legalization of homosexual marriage. They need to stick to making cars and trucks. > Although I am reluctant to encourage off-topic discussion on any group > you also might care to explain just how gay marriage would hurt you, > personally? > Because it does not personally hurt me does not mean I or anyone else > has to accept it. Rubbish, ever heard of live and let live? > Forget religion in the > argument, it is against nature. > > Pedophilia does not hurt me personally, but it is wrong and illegal. *Totally* separate issue- paedophiles are hurting children, gays are hurting no-one <nonsense about identical twins snipped> > Finally, a company should get involved in promoting immoral behavior. > If anything, they just need to stay neutral. Ford has been aggressively > promoting and sponsoring homosexual groups and promoting the > legalization of homosexual marriage. They need to stick to making cars > and trucks. And family groups need to stick to fighting for families and strong marriages and getting the government to support marriage instead of worrying about what gays get up to. There is *NO* conflict of interest between the two causes- something conservative groups over here have long accepted http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2006/06/support_for_het.html >> Because it does not personally hurt me does not mean I or anyone else >> has to accept it. > > Rubbish, ever heard of live and let live? So tolerate perversion and immorality? Not a chance. >> Forget religion in the >> argument, it is against nature. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > *Totally* separate issue- paedophiles are hurting children, gays are > hurting no-one Pedophiles and Homosexuals are both mental defects and involve gross and repugnant behavior. > <nonsense about identical twins snipped> You say nonsense, but like many people who accept homosexuality, you ignore proven facts. >> Finally, a company should get involved in promoting immoral behavior. >> If anything, they just need to stay neutral. Ford has been aggressively [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > conservative groups over here have long accepted > http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2006/06/support_for_het.html A family does not consist of two homosexuals living together. A family is a father, mother and children. Anything else is a distortion. Not sure where "over here" is but most people in the U.S. are not buying the gay arguments. > > And family groups need to stick to fighting for families and strong > > marriages and getting the government to support marriage instead of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > A family does not consist of two homosexuals living together. Nobody is suggesting it does. That doesn't make it wrong, or is anyone living in anything other than a tradional family "repungnant"? > Not sure where "over here" is but most people in the U.S. are not buying > the gay arguments. Don't know about that. 55% said they would vote for a gay President. Not overwhelming, but a majority. BTW 'over here' is England, where we've heard many of the same arguments. They were all wrong, and have been proved so by experience. > Nobody is suggesting it does. That doesn't make it wrong, or is anyone > living in anything other than a tradional family "repungnant"? Oh, but yes another poster did just that. > Don't know about that. 55% said they would vote for a gay President. > Not overwhelming, but a majority. Voting for a homosexual president is different than supporting homosexuality. Is the homosexual president jamming his/her homosexuality in your face so to speak. We may get that situation with Hillary who many suspect is a closet homosexual. > BTW 'over here' is England, where we've heard many of the same > arguments. They were all wrong, and have been proved so by experience. Proven wrong? How were they proven wrong? > > BTW 'over here' is England, where we've heard many of the same > > arguments. They were all wrong, and have been proved so by experience. > > Proven wrong? How were they proven wrong? Until about ten years ago, the age of consent in England for homosexuals was 21. When parliament was debating equal rights, we heard all sorts of arguments how this was going to lead to the corruption of young boys, more padeophilla, the decline of the family and so on. It never happened. By the time we got around to the gay partnerships bill a couple of years ago, nearly all of those arguments had disappeared as they had been proved nonsense. Hence my assertion that there is 'no conflict' between gay rights and family values. And now England is a shadow of her former glory. From ruling the world and the seas to a little island. Losing nerve in the war on terror. On May 10, 6:45 am, ryou...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > And family groups need to stick to fighting for families and strong > > > marriages and getting the government to support marriage instead of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > BTW 'over here' is England, where we've heard many of the same > arguments. They were all wrong, and have been proved so by experience. Does that apply to priests, as well? Do you have many gay friends? mike >> Because it does not personally hurt me does not mean I or anyone else >> has to accept it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > *Totally* separate issue- paedophiles are hurting children, gays are > hurting no-one No Mike, I don't have gay friends, but I do have friends who have chosen homosexuality. I have four friends who are homosexual. It used to be seven including one cousin, but three died (including my cousin) from AIDS some years back in the early 90's. Does what apply to priests and what religion are you referencing? There are a number of religions who refer to their clergy as "priests." > Does that apply to priests, as well? Do you have many gay friends? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> *Totally* separate issue- paedophiles are hurting children, gays are >> hurting no-one I was under the impression homosexuals preferred to be referred to a gay, rather then any of the other euphemisms, because it seemed less divisive. Particularly when one reads the varied definitions of homosexual. I was somewhat surprised that you profess to have friend that have 'chosen homosexuality,' however. My gay friend seem to think God chose their homosexuality You said. "Pedophilia does not hurt me personally, but it is wrong and illegal. *Totally* separate issue- paedophiles (sic) are hurting children, gays are hurting no-one" I thought my questioning, of the last part of your statement, was a rather straight (no pun intended) forward question I was simply wondering if your opinion applied to homosexual priests, as well, who have indeed been, physically and psychologically, hurting many children for many years. I just assumed you were aware of the fact homosexual Catholic priest have been arrested, and the church sued for many millions over it, because that information has been all over the media for many years. ;) mike > No Mike, I don't have gay friends, but I do have friends who have chosen > homosexuality. I have four friends who are homosexual. It used to be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> mike It is great to hear of a company suffering for supporting offensive causes. Ford gives money to homos - I and no one else in my family will buy a Ford because of this. Design/quality play a part but for a company to further the unnatural and immoral gay agenda is reprehensible. Hopefully Ford will go under and the other makers will realize that homosexuality is offensive to most Americans and is blasphemous and sinful in our great Nation which was founded and prospered by the auspices of Almighty God! On May 7, 12:53 pm, ryou...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Not really, but you can read about it here: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you also might care to explain just how gay marriage would hurt you, > personally? > company to further the unnatural and immoral gay agenda is > reprehensible. Hopefully Ford will go under and the other makers will > realize that homosexuality is offensive to most Americans and is > blasphemous and sinful in our great Nation which was founded and > prospered by the auspices of Almighty God! You do realise this is an international newsgroup, yes? Have you any idea how silly you are making yourself, your religion and your 'great Nation' look with this nonsense? > You do realise this is an international newsgroup, yes? Yes > Have you any idea how silly you are making yourself, your religion and > your 'great Nation' look with this nonsense? No. What does religion have to do with it. It is a great nation. Saved your a.s in two world wars. > ryou...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > What does religion have to do with it. Nothing, I was responding to the other guy whom came out with the religous arguments. Sorry if that wasn't clear I use Google Groups and I'm not sure how compatitable that is with some newsreaders in terms of making it clear who is replying to whom. ryouwho@hotmail.com wrote: You do realise this is an international newsgroup, yes? Have you any idea how silly you are making yourself, your religion and your 'great Nation' look with this nonsense? ______________________________________________ It is a great nation. Saved your a.s in two world wars. ______________________________________________ Not true. The British saved our a.ses. Brave citizens on a small Atlantic island nation were virtually the only resistance to the unstoppable march of German world domination. If the British had folded, you would be sprechenzieing Deutsch right now as you spout out your brainwashed religious hatred. Rodan. <--- American, loves freedom, hates hatred > Not true. The British saved our a.ses. Brave citizens > on a small Atlantic island nation were virtually the only [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rodan. <--- American, loves freedom, hates hatred Thank you for your kind words, Rodan, but there were plenty of brave Americans also in that war. Anyway we are now a country mile off topic, I've made my point, and it's time to call time on this thread and get back to the fun stuff............. talking about cars :D I had a feeling you were American. Probably public school educated as you must have read some revisionist history crap. The British could not have held out against the Germans had it not been for the supplies the U.S. sent them under lend/lease and a lot of "back office" intelligence help we provided. If the U.S. had not entered the war, Europe would be simply Germany. What religious hatred? I never mentioned religion. But you are obviously a typical liberal nut-job. When you don't agree with something immoral, the liberals start attacking religion and call it hatred. I don't hate anyone. And because I don't approve and accept the perversion of homosexuality, that is not hate. > Not true. The British saved our a.ses. Brave citizens > on a small Atlantic island nation were virtually the only [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rodan. <--- American, loves freedom, hates hatred Actually you are both correct. Had the Brits not held out (and the Russians on the east even more so) Hitler would have ruled the world, once he took over Europe. FDRs lend/lease program was what made it possible. The lend/lease program, which was neither a loan nor a lease, was FDRs way of getting around the Congress's strong rejection of going to war in Europe. FDR and Churchill knew we had to fight Hitler sooner rather than later, but like today the British and the American people were not willing to take on the fight. In 1939 the British people kicked Churchill out for wanting to fight Hitler, a few years later, when their county was attacked by Hitler, they brought Churchill back to save the country Many of the people today remind me of the people we use to hear back in the late thirties, they are not willing to fight for their freedom. My uncle, who was killed at Peal Harbor, often told my dad we needed to fight them before they bring the fight to us. He was like the military people of today that understands what is a stake. Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to wise up to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. Bush is right to take on the radical Islamic terrorist now, over there rather than over here, later. He is not the enemy. I'm an old man with few years left, I will not see it but if the American people do not forget politics and are not willing to fight for their own freedom and if we pull out of Iraq before or real enemy is defeated, we are headed for a nuclear attack and doomed as a country. mike >I had a feeling you were American. Probably public school educated as you >must have read some revisionist history crap. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Rodan. <--- American, loves freedom, hates hatred > Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to wise up > to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. Bush is right to take on the > radical Islamic terrorist now, over there rather than over here, later. He > is not the enemy. Take them on? The idiot is creating them all the while enriching his pals. > I'm an old man with few years left, I will not see it but if the American > people do not forget politics and are not willing to fight for their own > freedom and if we pull out of Iraq before or real enemy is defeated, we are > headed for a nuclear attack and doomed as a country. It's a sad psychological fact that after a certain age (it varies) many people (usually men), by virtue of their impending inevitable exit start projecting all sorts of doomsday scenarios. Mine is a little different. Corporations already have more or equal rights than "We The People" and we seem well on our way to a global Corporatocracy. 9/11 provided a leap forward (backward?) for the New World Order first mentioned by Bush the 1st with the Patriot Act, attacks on Habeas Corpus and abandoning the Geneva Conventions. The Constitution and "We The People" mean nothing to those behind these changes. Its not the peoples failure to respond to phony wars that will do us in, it is standing by while America is turned into a third world country. It is well on its way right now. IMHO. We're all born into an imperfect world and we exit the same. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Corporatocracy And here all this time I thought the kooks were all in the Toyota NG LOL mike >> Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to wise >> up to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. Bush is right to take [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > into a third world country. It is well on its way right now. IMHO. We're > all born into an imperfect world and we exit the same. > And here all this time I thought the kooks were all in the Toyota NG LOL Everyones a kook when you're senile. ;) I sorry to hear of your misfortunate medical condition, I'll pray for your recovery. mike >> And here all this time I thought the kooks were all in the Toyota NG >> LOL > > Everyones a kook when you're senile. ;) > I sorry to hear of your misfortunate medical condition, I'll pray for your > recovery. Don't bother. I made a deal with God, I won't support killing in His name if he would just ignore prayers for me from those who do. ;) > mike > > "F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> And here all this time I thought the kooks were all in the Toyota NG >>> LOL >> Everyones a kook when you're senile. ;) Thank goodness! Finally you understand that the President is not the enemy of the US and that the radical Islamic terrorist, that want to kill all Americans in the name of their god, are the real enemy. It took some time but your realization of the facts proves that even the worst to the Bush haters can become enlightened and prove that they are not the stupid dolts everybody takes them to be, but simply people that are easily confused and mislead. Welcome to the real world, my friend ;) mike >> I sorry to hear of your misfortunate medical condition, I'll pray for >> your recovery. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >>> Everyones a kook when you're senile. ;) > Thank goodness! Finally you understand that the President is not the enemy > of the US and that the radical Islamic terrorist, that want to kill all > Americans in the name of their god, are the real enemy. Keep drinking the Kook Aid gramps. > It took some time but your realization of the facts proves that even the > worst to the Bush haters can become enlightened and prove that they are not > the stupid dolts everybody takes them to be, but simply people that are > easily confused and mislead. You *are* a little senile aren't you? > Welcome to the real world, my friend ;) What you will believe depends very much on what you are. Tell us that again the next time we are attacked by one of the radical Islamic terrorist groups. My only hope is it in a city were a bunch of the kooks like you reside. ;) mike >> Thank goodness! Finally you understand that the President is not the >> enemy of the US and that the radical Islamic terrorist, that want to kill [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > What you will believe depends very much on what you are. > Tell us that again the next time we are attacked by one of the radical > Islamic terrorist groups. Like those danged Iraqi's? > My only hope is it in a city were a bunch of the kooks like you reside. ;) LOL, Paranoid *and* homicidal. Drink some more Kool Aid Mikey, then go to church. <wink> > Thank goodness! Finally you understand that the President is not the > enemy of the US True. He's just their best friend and unwitting ally. > and that the radical Islamic terrorist, that want to kill all Americans in > the name of their god, are the real enemy. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > mike The real world? You should visit it, sometime. >>> I sorry to hear of your misfortunate medical condition, I'll pray for >>> your recovery. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>>> Everyones a kook when you're senile. ;)  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to wise up > to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. No Mike, they won't wise up even then. They will blame Bush for inciting the attack, rather than blame the attackers. >> Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to >> wise up to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. > > No Mike, they won't wise up even then. They will blame Bush for > inciting the attack, rather than blame the attackers. Which attackers should the Iraqi's blame? That statement is another prime example of what I meant when I said the radical Islamic terrorist will have to attack an American city again before the lefty kooks will know we are at war with them and not our President. My hope is they hit one of the blue state cities, where most of the kooks like him, live LOL mike >>> Unfortunately it will take another 9/11 for the political kooks to wise >>> up to the fact we are in the fight of our lives. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Which attackers should the Iraqi's blame? > That statement is another prime example of what I meant when I said the > radical Islamic terrorist will have to attack an American city again before > the lefty kooks will know we are at war with them and not our President. My > hope is they hit one of the blue state cities, where most of the kooks like > him, live LOL Sadly, you are an embarrasment to the concept of being informed. Either that or you think America can use force to take whatever it wants, whenever it wants, from whomever it wants. No Iraqi's attacked America. Iraq's fate was sealed when Saddam Hussein decided to switch to the euro in late 2000 (and later converted his $10 billion reserve fund at the U.N. to euros), at that point, another manufactured Gulf War become inevitable under Bush II. I strongly doubt that you are able to grasp anything other than the same old propaganda you recite like a parrot but take note of these two articles. One from before the invasion of Iraq and one after, neither that the average American has ever read or even has a clue about and see if any lights go on: http://www.thinkandask.com/news/thedollar.html http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html > mike > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> the attack, rather than blame the attackers. >> Which attackers should the Iraqi's blame? What religious hatred? I never mentioned religion. When I don't agree with something immoral, liberals start attacking religion and call it hatred. When I don't approve and accept the perversion of homosexuality, that is not hate. ____________________________________________________ Don't you recognize in your own posts the standard buzzwords of religious brainwashing ("immoral, perverted, sinful, unholy")? The purpose of all religuous cults is to provide a group structure to validate the worth of a self-doubting individual. Unfortunately when one joins the cult and is validated as a worthy member, he must also sign on to the cult's particular list of things to hate. And they are ALL cults, from the Crips to the Christians. Your cult may demand that you hate uncovered female skin, or hate other cults, or hate anyone leaving the cult, or hate anyone who is believed to insult any of your cult beliefs, cult writings, cult jewelry, cult clothing, or cult rituals. Sooner or later you will be goaded into violently harming or killing a person your cult has identified as a target of its hatred. Please withdraw from your church's cult of moralistic hatred. Abandon the brainwashed distrust injected into you by your cult leaders, and work toward providing, freedom, prosperity and security from fear for your fellow human beings. Best regards, Rodan. ______________________ > Don't you recognize in your own posts the standard buzzwords > of religious brainwashing ("immoral, perverted, sinful, unholy")? Sorry, typical liberal, spouting words off that I never wrote. I did say immoral and perverted because it is and immorality and perversion have nothing to do with religion. I never said sinful and unholy. Those are religious statements. Homosexuality is against the basic laws of nature. Second, as I noted before, recent studies are showing that it is not a genetic defect, but homosexuality may be brought on by a chemical imbalance in the brain like mental illnesses. Homosexuals detest that possibility because it means that they might be "cured" with drugs much like how mental illnesses are treated with drugs. They want you to believe they were born that way as in genetic, but it has been proven to not be genetic. So that leaves two possibilities - choice or chemical imbalance. British saved us? WW1 was going poorly for the allies un til '17 when the doughboys went over there and shut down the Hun. Had the US not sold/loaned materiel to England in WW2 they would Deutsch. gesprechen. Hitler wanted none of the US. It was his Nip buddies who siced us on him. Since we also whooped England 2X I'd say America is the most powerful. We still control the colonies we won in '98. It was God Guns and Guts that made us what we are. > ryou...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Rodan. <--- American, loves freedom, hates hatred >> You do realise this is an international newsgroup, yes? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > It is a great nation. Saved your a.s in two world wars. What? Who saved what? The Americans saved anyone? Hell, they got into WWI when it was already won. WWII their enemy was Japan. Europe (read the Russians) took care of Germany. American schools are a complete failure. Brad > What? Who saved what? The Americans saved anyone? Europe was at a complete stalemate in WWI until the U.S. came in which turned the tide against Germany and its allies. Hell, they got into > WWI when it was already won. What crap history book are you reading or are you just making this non-sense up? WWII their enemy was Japan. Yes, Japan got the U.S. into WWII, but after the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on the U.S. almost immediately. So our enemies were all the countries who were part of the Axis. Europe (read the > Russians) took care of Germany. On one front. If it were not for the Lend/Lease program, Russia would have been overrun by the Germans. American schools are a complete failure. I agree, American Public Schools are a complete failure. The private schools are doing quite well. Unfortunately, the government has a monopoly on education funding so only the rich get to be truly educated while the low and middle class get stuck sending their kids to government indoctrination, union teachers, and a general sub-standard to completely poor education in the wasteland of public schools. There should be public funding of education, not the funding of public education. > Brad [snip] > American schools are a complete failure. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > There should be public funding of education, not the funding of public > education. Private schools only look good because they can choose who attends them. Public schools have to take everyone and they are huge lawyer-targets. One of my friends is pulling his kid from parochial school this year because he doesn't see the value in it. In fact, several private schools in this are are in danger of closing, due to declining numbers. >> Brad SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com It just makes America the beacon of light and hope in the world. What other country are people risking lives to get to? We became the greatest Nation in the world by following the word of God in thefounding and practices of America. We free the oppressed, feed the starving but will not tolerate the perversion of homosexuality that weakens the family. There are two types of people- Americans and those trying to become Americans!!! n May 10, 6:23 am, ryou...@hotmail.com wrote: > > company to further the unnatural and immoral gay agenda is > > reprehensible. Hopefully Ford will go under and the other makers will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Have you any idea how silly you are making yourself, your religion and > your 'great Nation' look with this nonsense? On 11 May, 01:19, big...@backpacker.com wrote: > It just makes America the beacon of light and hope in the world. What > other country are people risking lives to get to? We became the > greatest Nation in the world by following the word of God in > thefounding and practices of America. We free the oppressed, feed the > starving but will not tolerate the perversion of homosexuality that > weakens the family. As we've already accepted a family is a mother, father and 1 or more children, yes? So how can what two men get up to weaken the family? You might not like the thought of homosexual acts (which I suspect is your real concern here), but that is not the same thing at all........ > On 11 May, 01:19, big...@backpacker.com wrote: >> It just makes America the beacon of light and hope in the world. What [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You might not like the thought of homosexual acts (which I suspect is > your real concern here), but that is not the same thing at all........ Let's not forget that those very same "homosexual acts" are also often practiced by heterosexual couples (I'd bet that on a daily basis there's more heterosexual oral sex than homosexual oral sex, just because of the numbers of practitioners involved). But in a heterosexual relationship, they're practiced asymnetrically. I guess that makes it OK. As long as there are has been organized Christianity, opportunistic preachers have been sustaining and enriching themselves by pandering to our baser motives and preaching hate instead of preaching The Two Great Commandments. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and > aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So last > month their sales performance was again one of the worst in the industry. > Will management and the stockholders ever wake up? Only in your dreams does this boycott matter to Ford. Their sales are up and down proportionately with the rest of industry, except, perhpas for their trucks, which may have dropped a bit more, most likely due to the fact that GM and Toyota have brand-new designs out. Fusion sales were UP by quite a bit. Why? Because it's a nice car, priced right. If Ford builds more nice cars and prices them right, they'll sell. By the way, I receive Wildmon's Very Important Bulletins about Ford Promoting The Homosexual Agenda and I'm damned if I can figure out a good reason why Wildmon has singled out Ford. They're not doing anything that most other major corporations and state and local governments are doing. The only possible reason is because Ford is the best profile target he can select. He can't hit the governments because he'd have to win elections to do that and this cause is lost in the political arena. GM's too big and DCX is backed by Germany and not only can't be budged much (this is all de regiuer in Deutschland) but has deep resources. Ford is probably the most vulnerable high profile target he can aim for. And, as a comparison across industry shows, Wildmon is having no effect at all. He's got a couple dozen mouth-breathers cranked up about this (like "Me know" and "bigjim" - what's up with that? A closet case?) but they're probably mostly from the lower end of the income distribution spectrum (the underclass that needs to blame its misery on something other than their own laziness and ignorance) and their pledge not to buy a Ford means they won't be buying a 12 year old Taurus, they'll be buying a 13-year old Impala instead. Bill Ford is willing to give up those sales, I'm sure. Heck, Wildmon's loyalists are so dumb, they read Wildmon's breathless "You're Winning! Ford is Down!" proclamations and don't bother to notice that EVERYBODY is down (even Toyota was down this month). That's room-temperature IQs at work, for sure. Like I said, people like that don't have the money for a new car. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com April Auto Sales Chrysler up 1.6% (curiously, where I now buy my vehicles every year) Toyota down 4.3% Honda down 9.1% GM down 9.5% Ford down 13% Not working huh? Even if the boycott accounts for 4% or so, that is significant. Enough that Ford family members are discussing rather heatedly as has been reported in the press. The reason Ford is being targeted is because they agreed to stay neutral and then went back on that promise. Also they are the most aggressive auto company at promoting and funding homosexuality and homosexual marriage initiatives. >> There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and >> aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So last [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > room-temperature IQs at work, for sure. Like I said, people like that don't > have the money for a new car. > April Auto Sales > > Chrysler up 1.6% (curiously, where I now buy my vehicles every year) You'll be sorry. Unless you love getting reamed by excessive depreciation. > Toyota down 4.3% > Honda down 9.1% [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > auto company at promoting and funding homosexuality and homosexual > marriage initiatives. Sorry. Ford is most likely down, overall, because GM and Toyota both have new trucks out and Ford doesn't. With their product mix heavy in trucks, this hurts them considerably. Their best new product, the Fusion is way up. Did I mention my belief that you suffer from inbreeding? >>> There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and >>> aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> room-temperature IQs at work, for sure. Like I said, people like that >> don't have the money for a new car. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> April Auto Sales >> >> Chrysler up 1.6% (curiously, where I now buy my vehicles every year) > > You'll be sorry. Unless you love getting reamed by excessive depreciation. In 30 years, haven't been hurt by excessive depreciation. Jeeps hold their value very well. One year I sold a 10 year old Jeep for more than I paid for it. Everyone else is concerned about excessive depreciation also, and that's why they're flocking to buy Chrysler vehicles. And my last Ford, an 4WD Escape, purchased at $22,000 new and after four years, was sold for $7,500. That's all I could get because of the problems with the vehicle. Transmission out at 60K miles, window motors failed, anti-lock brakes failed, rear window wiper motor failed, alternator failed, and a bunch of little items. Ford Bronco, paint started flaking off in only one year. Took a bath on that one also. So with crappy quality and the homosexual promotion at Ford, there will never be another Ford bought in this family. Even my sister who was a loyal Ford buyer is done, her latest car was from Chrysler. My daughter bought a Saturn instead of Ford. Other daughter bought a Jeep. Mother-in-law bought a Chevy. Ford is toast right now. > Sorry. Ford is most likely down, overall, because GM and Toyota both have > new trucks out and Ford doesn't. With their product mix heavy in trucks, > this hurts them considerably. Their best new product, the Fusion is way up. Yeah, great, it's the trucks. Believe what you want. That's why Ford dealer are writing corporate and not because people are coming into and writing dealerships about the boycott. > Did I mention my belief that you suffer from inbreeding? No, but another typical liberal when they lose an argument they resort to this garbage. >>> April Auto Sales >>> Chrysler up 1.6% (curiously, where I now buy my vehicles every year) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for it. Everyone else is concerned about excessive depreciation also, and > that's why they're flocking to buy Chrysler vehicles. OK. True. Jeeps hold their value well. The rest of Chrysler's lineup - hah. > And my last Ford, an 4WD Escape, purchased at $22,000 new and after four > years, was sold for $7,500. That's all I could get because of the problems [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ford is toast right now. Yep. Poor quality has hurt them. Far more than Wildmon's hard-on for them ever will. >> Sorry. Ford is most likely down, overall, because GM and Toyota both >> have new trucks out and Ford doesn't. With their product mix heavy in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No, but another typical liberal when they lose an argument they resort to > this garbage. I was just explaining why I have low expectations for you. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I bought a new car in 04 and will probably buy another next year so income has nothing to do with doing what is right by not buying Ford. Their lineup sucks too as do their designs but the main reason I wont buy one is the homo agenda they support. I will likely purchase the wrangler umlimited as this the most innovative and practical vehicle available today. > > There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and > > aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So last [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Has everyone forgotten how Henry supported the Nazi line of thinking in the 1930's? So what's so different from that and being antagonistic to homosexuals? Doc =----------------------------------- > There is a boycott of Ford for over a year now because of their open and > aggressive support of homosexual groups and homosexual marriage. So [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the report. "However, on balance, we believe we are making progress > toward improving the profitability of our business in North America. Your source for that is................? > Has everyone forgotten how Henry supported the Nazi line of thinking > in the 1930's? Ford is being overly PC to make up for Henry is all > Has everyone forgotten how Henry supported the Nazi line of thinking > in the 1930's? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - |
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