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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / May 20072007 sales so far - A and B+
Automotive News - May 14, 2007 let's...assign preliminary grades, based on sales performance, to some of the new cars and trucks on the market for the 2007 model year... A+: Jeep's Wrangler http://snipurl.com/1l6ym is easily the best of the new breed. OK, I know the Wrangler has been around for years, but the four-door hasn't, and the four-door is doing the job. Wrangler sales were up 77.7 percent for the first four months of this year. It richly deserves its grade of A+. B+: The new Toyota Tundra http://snipurl.com/1l6yp receives a grade of B+. Its sales have increased since its February introduction, and the only thing that keeps it from an A is the fact that it has not yet achieved its nut of 16,667 deliveries a month. That's what it will take to reach Toyota's stated target of 200,000 a year. April was the new Tundra's best month, with 14,200 sales. That's something else for the Detroiters to worry about - as if they didn't have enough already. Sharing the B+ grade is the Ford Edge crossover http://snipurl.com/Ford_Edge - After four months, it was right on its goal of 100,000 a year. But why is the goal so miserly? Face it, neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford Motor Co... >Automotive News - May 14, 2007 > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >were up 77.7 percent for the first four months of this year. It richly >deserves its grade of A+. That depends on how poor sales where last years and how many units you are talking about >B+: The new Toyota Tundra http://snipurl.com/1l6yp receives a grade of >B+. Its sales have increased since its February introduction, and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Tundra's best month, with 14,200 sales. That's something else for the >Detroiters to worry about - as if they didn't have enough already. It really deserves a A++ because it is new model and concept that is in uncharted waters. It is doing really well considering that each sale is lakely "stealing" a detriot truck sale. >Sharing the B+ grade is the Ford Edge crossover >http://snipurl.com/Ford_Edge - After four months, it was right on its >goal of 100,000 a year. But why is the goal so miserly? Face it, >neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford >Motor Co... This is misleading because what other sales is Ford loosing on other models with this? You need to look at the big picture on this one to rate it. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >>B+: The new Toyota Tundra http://snipurl.com/1l6yp receives a grade of >>B+. Its sales have increased since its February introduction, and the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in uncharted waters. It is doing really well considering that each > sale is lakely "stealing" a detriot truck sale. You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on the Tundra, they also slapped on other dealer incentives, and practically ordered all the Toyota and Lexus delaers to buy one in April for use as a parts truck. Considering that a precentge of the April sales, were sales to their own dealers, are you so sure they deserve even a B? Ed >You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on the >Tundra, they also slapped on other dealer incentives, and practically >ordered all the Toyota and Lexus delaers to buy one in April for use as a >parts truck. Considering that a precentge of the April sales, were sales to >their own dealers, are you so sure they deserve even a B? Toyota did not rise to being the number one is sales with bad products and Detriot is the champion of rebates and incestive to sell trucks (they cannot move them without them. Given this why is it suddenly wrong for Toyota to do what Detroit has done for many years unless you want one set of rules for Detriot and another for Toyota but then that would not be "fair" either. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com > >You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on the > >Tundra, they also slapped on other dealer incentives, and practically [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Toyota has also been caught by the move to more fuel efficient vehicles. >>You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on the >>Tundra, they also slapped on other dealer incentives, and practically >>ordered all the Toyota and Lexus delaers to buy one in April for use as a >>parts truck. Considering that a precentge of the April sales, were sales to >>their own dealers, are you so sure they deserve even a B?<snip> They have screwed up trying to invade the US light truck market every time. The new Tundra factory in Texas is turning out to be an embarrassing money pit for Toyota management. According to standard Jap corporate procedure, someone will have to fall on their sword for the screw up, and the factory will be converted to produce fuel efficient cars. Nissan has already dumped the Titan for next year. >>>You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on the >>>Tundra, they also slapped on other dealer incentives, and practically [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Nissan has already dumped the Titan for next year. Ask anyone who has achieved anything beyond the normal and they will tell you " the price of progress is trouble ". Toyota has deep enough pockets to fix whatever is broken. Toyota has plenty of money to offer big discounts to it customers and its dealers. If they do, they may get annual Tundra sales up above the sales figures for the previous Tundra. If Toyota promotes the Tundra hard enough, they may get the annual sales close to the monthly sales figures for the Ford F150. If they are lucky, maybe even up to the Silverado or Ram, monthly sales numbers;) mike >>>>You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on >>>>the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you " the price of progress is trouble ". > Toyota has deep enough pockets to fix whatever is broken. > Toyota has plenty of money to offer big discounts to it customers and its > dealers. If they do, they may get annual Tundra sales up above the sales [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> you " the price of progress is trouble ". >> Toyota has deep enough pockets to fix whatever is broken. Is that before Ford goes bankrupt Mike, or after? >>>>You are ignoring the facts that Toyota not only has slaped rebates on >>>>the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you " the price of progress is trouble ". > Toyota has deep enough pockets to fix whatever is broken. I thought the old saying was "you can spot the pioneer by the arrows in his back." If one adds the Edge number to the F150 number of around 900,000 that's over a million vehicles and a lot more than the Tundra and Camry combined total ;) mike > Automotive News - May 14, 2007 > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford > Motor Co... > If one adds the Edge number to the F150 number of around 900,000 that's > over a million vehicles and a lot more than the Tundra and Camry combined > total ;) > > mike And Detroit still can't make a profit........ >> Automotive News - May 14, 2007 >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford >> Motor Co... Not when they are spending billions on R&D and all new models ;) mike >> If one adds the Edge number to the F150 number of around 900,000 that's >> over a million vehicles and a lot more than the Tundra and Camry combined [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford >>> Motor Co... > Not when they are spending billions on R&D and all new models ;) > > mike Playing catch up is a tough game LOL..... >>> If one adds the Edge number to the F150 number of around 900,000 that's >>> over a million vehicles and a lot more than the Tundra and Camry [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>>> neighbors: A 100,000-a-year seller isn't going to do much to save Ford >>>> Motor Co... Ford will have a hard time catching up to Toyota. But then again why would Ford want to emulate Toyota and make and sell under powered or over price cars and trucks in the US, when Ford already out sell Toyota? ;) mike >> Not when they are spending billions on R&D and all new models ;) >> >> mike > > Playing catch up is a tough game LOL..... > Ford will have a hard time catching up to Toyota. But then again why would > Ford want to emulate Toyota and make and sell under powered or over price > cars and trucks in the US, when Ford already out sell Toyota? ;) Yeah, why would anyone want to sell overpriced cars and make more money off them? Gee, does the phrase, "Make a profit" mean anything to you? Jeff > mike > >>> Not when they are spending billions on R&D and all new models ;) >>> >>> mike >> Playing catch up is a tough game LOL..... >> Ford will have a hard time catching up to Toyota. But then again why >> would Ford want to emulate Toyota and make and sell under powered or over [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jeff It hasn't been too long ago that the term "Japanese cars " made people laugh. No one that knows anything is laughing about their cars now. I think the same thing will be true regarding their trucks in a few years. History tends to repeat. > Not when they are spending billions on R&D and all new models ;) > > mike The "rank & file" has caused a lot of harm...  SignatureTom - Vista, CA |
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