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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / June 2007

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4.6 Alternator?

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Peetie Wheatstraw - 14 Jun 2007 00:44 GMT
When I start/run my 94 Tbird 4.6 (66k mi.), I hear a hi-pitched
"Grrrrrrrrrrrrr", sorta grinding (but not loud) noise. So I place
the male end of a long socket extension on the alt. housing, stick
the female end in my ear, and I hear the same sound and feel the
vibrations.

Alternator bearings? If so, rebuild the alt.??

 Thx,
 Peetie
Happy Traveler - 14 Jun 2007 01:26 GMT
Relieve the tension on the serpentine belt and spin the alternator by hand.
If the bearing is shot, you will know by feel. While at it you can do the
same with the tensioner, water pump, etc.

> When I start/run my 94 Tbird 4.6 (66k mi.), I hear a hi-pitched
> "Grrrrrrrrrrrrr", sorta grinding (but not loud) noise. So I place
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>
> Alternator bearings? If so, rebuild the alt.??
dold@05.usenet.us.com - 14 Jun 2007 01:55 GMT
> Relieve the tension on the serpentine belt and spin the alternator by hand.
> If the bearing is shot, you will know by feel. While at it you can do the
> same with the tensioner, water pump, etc.

In my case, on a '96 4.6, the "etc" was the A/C compressor bearing.
It seemed to make the noise whether the A/C was engaged or not, which I
thought was odd.

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clare at snyder.on.ca - 14 Jun 2007 03:02 GMT
>> Relieve the tension on the serpentine belt and spin the alternator by hand.
>> If the bearing is shot, you will know by feel. While at it you can do the
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>It seemed to make the noise whether the A/C was engaged or not, which I
>thought was odd.
Compressor CLUTCH bearing. The clutch spins all the time, compressor
running or not. Can usually be replaced without replacing the
compressor or even opening the system.

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lugnut - 14 Jun 2007 02:02 GMT
>When I start/run my 94 Tbird 4.6 (66k mi.), I hear a hi-pitched
>"Grrrrrrrrrrrrr", sorta grinding (but not loud) noise. So I place
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>  Thx,
>  Peetie

If you are patient, that alternator is easily rebuilt.  the
small bearing at the rear is usually not instock at a parts
hous but, is usually the one that goes bad.
Paul of Dayton - 14 Jun 2007 11:34 GMT
I just bought a full rebuild kit for mine on ebay - I was tipped off to the
seller by another member here - check out:
lugnut - 14 Jun 2007 11:49 GMT
>I just bought a full rebuild kit for mine on ebay - I was tipped off to the
>seller by another member here - check out:

I got the bearings and brushes from the local Bumper2Bumper
Parts.  Total cost under $15US.

Lugnut
Peetie Wheatstraw - 14 Jun 2007 15:42 GMT
>>When I start/run my 94 Tbird 4.6 (66k mi.), I hear a hi-pitched
>>"Grrrrrrrrrrrrr", sorta grinding (but not loud) noise. So I place
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>small bearing at the rear is usually not instock at a parts
>hous but, is usually the one that goes bad.

I wiggle the alt. pulley side to side and hear a little clunk-clunk.
Spin it and hear the lo grinding sound.

How difficult to rebuild? What special tools? If my (junk) Haynes
manual depicts anything correctly, the front bearing is ball, the
back is like a bushing. If the right part is on a workbench/vise,
do ya just tap the rear bearing out, tap the new one in?

 Thx,
 Peetie
Bruce L. Bergman - 15 Jun 2007 06:19 GMT
>How difficult to rebuild? What special tools? If my (junk) Haynes
>manual depicts anything correctly, the front bearing is ball, the
>back is like a bushing. If the right part is on a workbench/vise,
>do ya just tap the rear bearing out, tap the new one in?

 The only tricky part to doing the bearings in an alternator is
making a pin/tool to hold the brushes retracted as you get the two
halves of the alternator case mated and back together.

 Then the pin has to pull out and let the brushes pop into working
position on the rotor slip rings, without getting hung up.

 If you're changing the bearings, install a fresh set of brushes at
the same time.  That's another wear item that can give you troubles,
and you don't need to do the whole job over again next month...

   --<< Bruce >>--
Richard - 16 Jun 2007 06:19 GMT
> >How difficult to rebuild? What special tools? If my (junk) Haynes
> >manual depicts anything correctly, the front bearing is ball, the
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> making a pin/tool to hold the brushes retracted as you get the two
> halves of the alternator case mated and back together.

I seem to recall that a paperclip works well.

>   Then the pin has to pull out and let the brushes pop into working
> position on the rotor slip rings, without getting hung up.

Richard
Peetie Wheatstraw - 16 Jun 2007 15:13 GMT
Thanks go to Bruce and Richard.

I can't tackle it now (it's 140 F in my garage), but it's
on my to-do list.

 Cheers,
 Peetie

>> >How difficult to rebuild? What special tools? If my (junk) Haynes
>> >manual depicts anything correctly, the front bearing is ball, the
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>>
>Richard
 
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