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2001 Ford Taurus life expectancy question

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steve@comcast.net - 24 Nov 2007 23:10 GMT
I have a 2001 Ford Taurus that belonged to my son. Got it form him
used to get back and forth from schoolI Got it with 80K miles for
$5000.  He passed away in 2004 at 19 years old and only was in school
for 3 months. I have kept the car because it has sentimental value and
have personally run it up to 110K miles since inheriting. It has had
various problems but none major until recently when front transmission
seals have quit. I was able to pour a quart in here and there but now
it leaks too badly. Had it looked at and the cheapest way to resolve
it is to let my neighbor in the used parts business get me a tranny.
Found a low mileage one for $600.00. Installed it would be about $
1100-1200. I really can't afford to get into a payment situation right
now with another vehicle and will most likely give this taurus to my
other son. Am I putting good money into a losing situation. What can I
expect mileage wise out of this car. If it's good for another 50K
miles I suppose it's worth it. What other major problems can I expect
with this type of mileage. Timing chains come to mind. Again, I know
that emotions is playing into this decision but so is finances. Thanks
in advance for any opinions.

Steve
WG - 25 Nov 2007 01:14 GMT
On Nov 24, 5:10 pm, st...@comcast.net wrote:
> I have a 2001 Ford Taurus that belonged to my son. Got it form him
> used to get back and forth from schoolI Got it with 80K miles for
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>
> Steve

In my opinion, the ford taurus is the best [i.e. mechanically sound]
car ford has ever built. The 3 litre v6 vulcan or duratech [or is it
vtech] will easily be good to 400k plus. I know mechanics that have
never worked on this engine. I'm suprised the trany is a prob after
80K. 10 years ago you could not find a taxi that was a ford. Now where
I'm from 60% plus are taurus. {yeah I know they aren't expensive which
helps}. One of fords all time best selling cars. And no I don't work
for ford.
Just an opinion
Picasso - 25 Nov 2007 12:44 GMT
> On Nov 24, 5:10 pm, st...@comcast.net wrote:
>> I have a 2001 Ford Taurus that belonged to my son. Got it form him
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> for ford.
> Just an opinion

Uhhm, 10 years ago there were plenty of ford crown victoria cop cars
around... certainly not a taurus...

the C-V took a dip for awhille around 2000 here, and now its becoming
popular again as a taxi.. i've even see a few ex cop cars going to
taxi's now.
ds549@webtv.net - 25 Nov 2007 13:35 GMT
you put 30k on it and dont know the milage?

http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm
Bob Urz - 25 Nov 2007 15:14 GMT
> I have a 2001 Ford Taurus that belonged to my son. Got it form him
> used to get back and forth from schoolI Got it with 80K miles for
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>
> Steve

Did you take it to an independent transmission shop and get there
opinion and quote? It may be more economical to fix it if the core
trannie is still intact. What seals are you talking about? where the 1/2
shafts go in or where the coolant lines go in? Or is it puking out the vent?

Bob
Rodan - 25 Nov 2007 16:41 GMT
steve@comcast.net wrote:  (2001 Ford Taurus 110k Mi)

The front transmission seals leak badly.   I can get a used
tranny for about $1200 installed.   Am I putting good money
into a losing situation?   I can't afford another car.    If it's
good for another 50K miles I suppose it's worth it.  What
other major problems can I expect with this car?  Timing
chains come to mind.
_________________________________________________

Go back to the transmission shop that diagnosed the problem
as failed front seals instead of all other possible leak causes.
Ask why they are sure it is the seals.     If you are satisfied
with the answer, ask why can't the seals just be replaced.

Don't worry about possible future major problems.  Predicting
car breakdowns is like gambling at poker, and with your money
situation, you're "all in."    You've got to stick with what you
have, drive conservatively, and hope for the best.    Your
Taurus might surprise you with another 110k miles of service.

Good luck.

Rodan.
sas@netreach.net - 25 Nov 2007 17:52 GMT
First of all thank you all for the replies. I am not sure what the
actual diagnosis of the problem was but the Transmission Repair shop
was recommended to me by my neighbor who has upmost respect for the
owner. He sells him transmissions several times a year (my neighbor
has used auto body parts business). He would not intentionally steer
me wrong or make a penny off me for the parts. The Trans Shop told me
that to replace the seals would not be a good ideas as the car has
been driven with low fluid on various occassions.I was told that
future problems weren't guaranteed with seal fix. Basically they said
they didn't advise it with so many miles on the transmission. Their
quote was for 1800-2200 to take it out and rebuild it with new parts
where needed. To install the replacement transmission my neighbor
located for me  they want about 500.00. That sounds a bit high
considering they will have my old transmission for spare parts ?  I
have put sealers into transmission which some think could cause
problems later. I know that the transmission feels perfect when the
fluid  levels are ok - smooth shifts, no hesitations as of yesterday.
I'm thinking the low mileage replacement transmission if installed
properly might make more sense. Like I said I didn't get a price for
the seal repair but maybe I should from another shop ?

>steve@comcast.net wrote:  (2001 Ford Taurus 110k Mi)
>
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>
>Rodan.
Jeff - 25 Nov 2007 18:00 GMT
> First of all thank you all for the replies. I am not sure what the
> actual diagnosis of the problem was but the Transmission Repair shop
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> properly might make more sense. Like I said I didn't get a price for
> the seal repair but maybe I should from another shop ?

I would ask this shop, because you trust them, how much it would be to
just replace the seals? it might be cheap enough to take the risk that
the transmission is going to need a rebuild pretty soon.

If they think that you're better off going with a rebuild, I have a
feeling they're right. Unless you sell the car now, whatever advice they
offer is probably good.

I think, though, I would go for a rebuild rather than a used
transmission. But that's just me.

Jeff
clare at snyder.on.ca - 25 Nov 2007 19:36 GMT
>> First of all thank you all for the replies. I am not sure what the
>> actual diagnosis of the problem was but the Transmission Repair shop
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>
>Jeff
I had the front seal go south on my 1990 Aerostar years ago while on a
trip. The dealership where I had it towed did not want to reoplace
just the seal. I told them they had a seal in stock and I had enough
money to pay them to put a seal in. They did not have the parts to
rebuild the tranny and I didn't have the money to pay them to do it or
the time to wait for that job to be done. I said put in the seal, or
sell me the seal and I'll find someone to put it in.
They put it in.
Four years and 100,000km more or less miles later I sold the truck
with the same seal still in the same tranny.

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Tom Adkins - 27 Nov 2007 02:04 GMT
> >s...@netreach.net wrote:
> >> First of all thank you all for the replies. I am not sure what the
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Problem is, he majority of folks don't get that lucky. Labor is a
large part of a trans repair, especially on a FWD. More often than
mot, just replacing a converter to pump seal is false exonomy. If the
trans fails a short time later, you've lost a good chunk of change.
clare at snyder.on.ca - 28 Nov 2007 00:57 GMT
> Problem is, he majority of folks don't get that lucky. Labor is a
>large part of a trans repair, especially on a FWD. More often than
>mot, just replacing a converter to pump seal is false exonomy. If the
>trans fails a short time later, you've lost a good chunk of change.

On my 88 New Yorker I had a tranny shop swap trannies for me for under
$500. (I got lucky on that one and picked up an almost new tranny
(less than 30,000 km) for $300). I could have had a seal replaced on
the original and still made it for $500. The diff was out on mine, and
filings had gotten into the governor,so it wasn't worth fixing
Lots of cars are worth gambling $500 on, but DEFINITELY NOT worth a
$2500 rebuild.
You spend the $500 to put in a seal, and if you win you win. If it
doesn't work out you still scrap the car.

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steve@comcast.net - 25 Nov 2007 17:58 GMT
Sorry for the repost. I just set up a new trial version of Free Agent
and had my persona wrong so I reposted under the first post's email
name to avoid confusion.

First of all thank you all for the replies. I am not sure what the
actual diagnosis of the problem was but the Transmission Repair shop
was recommended to me by my neighbor who has upmost respect for the
owner. He sells him transmissions several times a year (my neighbor
has used auto body parts business). He would not intentionally steer
me wrong or make a penny off me for the parts. The Trans Shop told me
that to replace the seals would not be a good ideas as the car has
been driven with low fluid on various occassions.I was told that
future problems weren't guaranteed with seal fix. Basically they said
they didn't advise it with so many miles on the transmission. Their
quote was for 1800-2200 to take it out and rebuild it with new parts
where needed. To install the replacement transmission my neighbor
located for me  they want about 500.00. That sounds a bit high
considering they will have my old transmission for spare parts ?  I
have put sealers into transmission which some think could cause
problems later. I know that the transmission feels perfect when the
fluid  levels are ok - smooth shifts, no hesitations as of yesterday.
I'm thinking the low mileage replacement transmission if installed
properly might make more sense. Like I said I didn't get a price for
the seal repair but maybe I should from another shop ?

>I have a 2001 Ford Taurus that belonged to my son. Got it form him
>used to get back and forth from schoolI Got it with 80K miles for
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Steve
 
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