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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / February 2008End of an era - Holley files for bankruptcy
The subject says it all... > The subject says it all... Bankruptcy does not mean they're going out of business. They are reorganizing. I am not sure for whom they are reorganizing. Thanks to better technology, carbs are no longer used in new cars and trucks. Jeff >> The subject says it all... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Jeff Are carbs all they made? You'd think they would have gotten into fuel injection stuff. And what about small engines like on mowers and 2 cycle engines. Didn't they make some for those engines? As far as I know all of them still use carbs. (or did they change that lately too?). >>> The subject says it all... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Didn't they make some for those engines? As far as I know all of them >still use carbs. (or did they change that lately too?). Carbs were/are not their only product. That is where they started. These days, they produce and sell a wide range of aftermarket maintenance replacement and performance automotive components and equipment. They are also a major OEM supplier to the manufacturers. And, yes, they do make fuel injection equipment. The carburetor line alone would have supported only a relatively small maunfacturer for several years now. I suspect the ties to the OEM side is greatly responsible for their current problems. Lugnut <...> >> And what about small engines like on mowers and 2 cycle engines. >> Didn't they make some for those engines? As far as I know all of them >> still use carbs. (or did they change that lately too?). The vast majority of small engines made today have carbs. However, some do have fuel injection. Small engines today are responsible for a lot of the air pollution, like unburned hydrocarbons. Fuel injectors will help decrease this problem. Jeff I did a bad job of editing. lugnut did not write this. My bad. > <...> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jeff Well, in the US, the two cycles are supposed to change to four cycles (EPA) one of these days. The outboards have already done so. A lot of the small carbs are made outside the US. > I did a bad job of editing. lugnut did not write this. My bad. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Jeff >Well, in the US, the two cycles are supposed to change to four cycles (EPA) >one of these days. The outboards have already done so. >A lot of the small carbs are made outside the US. Personally, I wont complain at all about changing the 2 cycle engines to 4 cycle. Mixing gas and oil has always been a pain, and worse yet, I have never owned any 2 cycle engine that does not need to be repaired at least every 6 months. In fact I got so tired of fighting with 2 cycle chain saws that I bought an electric one. I'd rather run extension cords, than fight to start a 2 cycle engine. It seems that if a person uses their chainsaw daily they work better, but for me, it's something I use a few times a year, and even if I drain the gas, they just dont want to start. Most of the carbs I find on small engines are Walbro. I suppose thats an import. I am almost sure I have seen Holley carbs on at least a few small engines. F.D. >> Well, in the US, the two cycles are supposed to change to four cycles (EPA) >> one of these days. The outboards have already done so. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have never owned any 2 cycle engine that does not need to be > repaired at least every 6 months. Mack used to make some good 2-cycle diesel engines. They were, however, too heavy for chainsaws. Jeff >>> Well, in the US, the two cycles are supposed to change to four cycles (EPA) >>> one of these days. The outboards have already done so. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Jeff That would have been the DDA division of GM - Not Mack Lugnut >>>> Well, in the US, the two cycles are supposed to change to four cycles (EPA) >>>> one of these days. The outboards have already done so. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lugnut I was thinking of the Mack 673. But, you may be right, I may have confused it with the Detroit Diesel. The one I am thinking of had 6 cylinders. The cylinders had slots in them that let the exhaust gases leave. The head had four intake valves per cylinder. There were little nozzles aimed at the pistons (nicknamed pissers) that provided lubrication to the piston rings and cylinder walls. It took me about 2 or 3 days to take apart and clean these engines versus about 4 or 5 hours for small-block V8. Part of the reason was that I had more experience with the V8s, so I was more efficient with them. But it also took more time in the cleaning tank (which used hot NaOH sprayed at the engine parts - like a real big dishwasher). I only took appart two or three of these big engines. Jeff > The subject says it all... Well, this might give nascar food for thought about getting out of the dark ages and go to fuel injection. I predict some scavenger group will buy holly for pennies on the dollar and move all production to china or such. Bob >> The subject says it all... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bob There are other companies that make carbs. jeff |
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