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Automatic Transmission weird shifting

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Tube Audio - 03 Mar 2008 04:17 GMT
Automatic Transmission weird shifting

1990 Ford Ranger 4X2 Super Cab V 4.0L
A4LD Transmission

My vacuum modulator failed, automatic transmission fluid was being sucked
into the intake. The part has been bad for a good while about a year. I
discovered it as my fluid level has been slowly dropping over the last year.
The truck ran fine.

I purchase the part, Niehoff # TM115 fits 1987 - 1990 Ranger, when I ordered
the part, there were two to choose from; Niehoff also had a TM332 which was
for 1983- 1996 Ranger. Not sure what the differences are, altitude?

When I went to replace it things were tight with the cat so I took it to a
transmission shop gave them the part and they installed it. The also changed
the few inches of vacuum hose at each end of the hard-line as they were full
of transmission fluid.

As I drove away from the shop I noticed that at 15 mph it would shift into
2nd (which is normal), then at about 22mph the rpms would go up a good bit,
was it shifting back to 1st? Then after 1-2 seconds it would shift back into
2nd. Then as I would pick up speed it would go into third. This was Sat and
the shop closed as I left, so I couldn't go back.

It repeats this pattern every time, I drove around all day and it would do
it every time. If I took off and kept my foot into the throttle a bit it
would not happen. It happens if just drive easy.

The truck never did this before. At first I thought that I was getting use
to normal shifting since the vacuum modulator was replaced, but the more I
drove it I know that this rpm increase, slipping sensation was not normal.

So what could be wrong? Did I put in the wrong part? Is the new part bad? Is
there an adjustment involved?

And I did check to see that my transmission fluid is at the correct level.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 04 Mar 2008 05:54 GMT
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You shouldn't be buying the parts if you can't install them.

Hopefully you still have the original modulator.  If so, replace the
aftermarket with it, then go to the Ford dealer and have them
replace the modulator.  Otherwise, what I would suggest is you
go to a wrecking yard, find your
model truck with an original Ford modulator, get that, have your
tranny shop replace it, then see if it works.  If the wrecking yard
modulator is also leaking, but the shifting goes back to normal,
then you can take it to the Ford dealer and tell them the truck
works fine, and your losing fluid, and you called a tranny shop
who said the modulator is probably leaking and to take it to a
Ford dealer to replace since they can't get that particular modulator.
Naturally don't mention you already
tried aftermarket or that it's a wrecking yard modulator otherwise
your giving them something to blame you on if they put in a
Ford modulator that doesen't work.

What probably is going on is that Niehoff when they made
the aftermarket substitution, they made a mistake with your
model and year.  As a result, I would guess most if not all
aftermarket modulators are going to be wrong for your truck.
This is kind of a lost cause because it's possible that Ford themselves
made an error in their documentation.

If you go to a dealer and the truck is shifting fine, the dealer
then puts in a genuine Ford replacement and the shifting goes
cockeyed, then it is their problem, and they will have to make
the phone calls to Dearborne to get an engineer on the line to
correct the documentation and tell them what modulator to use.
For sure your not going to be able
to do that, nor will any aftermarket tranny shop.  And for sure
Niehoff will likely not be able to assist either - although a phone
call to them, while a very long shot, might work.

Your experience is one that goes along with the territory of
buying aftermarket parts.  Aftermarket manufacturers will often
come across the situation where the auto manufacturer makes
an unexplained change in a part - maybe only for 1 year - and
it's not cost-effective for the aftermarket manufacturer to
manufacture a special part for only that year.  So they will take
a similar part and make a substitution.  Sometimes that works,
sometimes not.  The aftermarket manufacturer will simply
look at the returns and if they see a high number of returns on
a substitution, they might then pull it from their docs.  Or they
might not.

Ted
Tube Audio - 04 Mar 2008 17:21 GMT
thanks for the reply

I found out late yesterday that the parts store sold me the wrong part.
They sold me a Niehoff TM115 instead of a TM332.  I called Niehoff and spoke
to a parts specialist and he confirmed.

I went to Ford and bought the correct part the Motorcraft TM74 and brought
it to the Transmission shop.  The owner who has been in business for 27
years, drove the truck with me.  He noticed the transmission is slipping
from 2nd to 3rd.

He is putting the new modulator in as we speak.

I do still have the original modulator.

I read you response after the above.

The plan was for me to do this but when I got under the truck it was a
little more involved then I wanted.  The Transmission shop spent more time
then they thought too.  The owner told me they had to take the cross member
out.

Thanks

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