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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / May 2008

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91 crown vic/grand marquis AC question

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Tom - 23 May 2008 19:49 GMT
does anyone know the charge weight for the 91 CV/GM??

my neighbor just bought one and the A/C don't work. i am going to pull a
vacuum to check for leaks, but don't have any books new enough to tell me
how much refrigerant to put back in.
aarcuda69062 - 23 May 2008 21:38 GMT
> does anyone know the charge weight for the 91 CV/GM??
>
> my neighbor just bought one and the A/C don't work. i am going to pull a
> vacuum to check for leaks, but don't have any books new enough to tell me
> how much refrigerant to put back in.

Mitchell sez; R-12 capacity- 44-52 ounces
Tom - 23 May 2008 23:17 GMT
thanks.

i am sure the kids will appreciate having working AC this summer.

the dodge minivan the grand marquis is replacing puked its compressor last
spring, and the thing was not worth the cost of a new compressor.

>> does anyone know the charge weight for the 91 CV/GM??
>>
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> Mitchell sez; R-12 capacity- 44-52 ounces
aarcuda69062 - 24 May 2008 15:57 GMT
> thanks.
>
> i am sure the kids will appreciate having working AC this summer.
>
> the dodge minivan the grand marquis is replacing puked its compressor last
> spring, and the thing was not worth the cost of a new compressor.

Glad to assist.

When in doubt, charge until the inlet and outlet of the evaporator are
the same temperature.

Easy to tell on a CCOT system like that one...
Tom - 24 May 2008 17:05 GMT
my 88 superduty uses 48 ounces for a full charge, so i figured it would be
about the same.
when in doubt, i usually put in 36 ounces, and then go from there, but this
is a 45k mile car so i want to do it properly.

she asked me to look at it, and we picked it up for $600 cause no one wants
an "old gas guzzler" that gets 20 mpg on the highway, and 14-around town

this thing is spotless, was owned and driven by an old woman that passed
away, and her son decided his 200k mile honda was a better car.

>> thanks.
>>
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> Easy to tell on a CCOT system like that one...
Bruce L. Bergman - 24 May 2008 21:10 GMT
>"aarcuda69062" <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote...

>>> i am sure the kids will appreciate having working AC this summer.
>>> the dodge minivan the grand marquis is replacing puked its compressor
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>when in doubt, i usually put in 36 ounces, and then go from there, but this
>is a 45k mile car so i want to do it properly.

 I would only charge by weight to 75% and then check the gauges -
make sure you don't overcharge.  Your charging scale could be off
(I've only seen the old-school graduated liquid charging cylinders in
pictures) or they could put the wrong AC information sticker on the
radiator support or in the repair manuals, so you always 'trust but
verify'.

 If it has leaked down to zero or had an open leak you need to
replace the filter/drier, they get saturated very easily.

 And if you see any signs of oil leaking out, check the oil level in
the compressor before recharging.  They don't live long at all if you
run them without oil...

>she asked me to look at it, and we picked it up for $600 cause no one wants
>an "old gas guzzler" that gets 20 mpg on the highway, and 14-around town
>
>this thing is spotless, was owned and driven by an old woman that passed
>away, and her son decided his 200k mile honda was a better car.

 If you drive it conservatively 20/14 MPG isn't that bad, and is
achievable real world.  (Leadfoots need not apply.)  Take good care of
it, and it can be sold at a premium later to get something newer - or
drive it lots of years and squeeze all the value out.

 --<< Bruce >>--
ds549@webtv.net - 25 May 2008 15:00 GMT
where are you guys getting all this r12?

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Tom - 25 May 2008 18:44 GMT
i bought 3 full 30 pounders, and 1 half full 30 pounder a few years ago at a
yard sale for $25.
all i had to do was show my epa certification, and i was on my way.
> where are you guys getting all this r12?
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