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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / June 2009GM: Air condition the trunk!
People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. Refrigerating the trunk when needed is not difficult. All that is needed is extra styrofoam insulation in the trunk compartment and lid, a duct from the evaporator and a servo flap valve linked to the dashboard air-con control panel. Airconditioning has been around since before WWII, yet no maker has thought about cooling the trunk. In fact, the same duct can send cool air to the back seat passengers, a feature we haven't seen in Cadillacs for a long time. Do it, GM and you will have a selling point Toyota & Camry doesn't. Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it >People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Do it, GM and you will have a selling point Toyota & Camry doesn't. $1000 option? For shopping, I just put the bags with the ice cream and meat on the front seat, in the shade, and aim a vent at it. Works so far. Long check-out time is what melts ice cream. "Features" don't sell as many cars as quality, and standing behind the quality. --Vic On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:30:50 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell > $1000 option? For shopping, I just put the bags with the ice cream > and meat on the front seat, in the shade, and aim a vent at it. Yes. Usually my plan too. But then I have to listen to the seatbelt chime half the way home... And no, I'm not going to disconnect it... I find it preferable to let the car nag reluctant passengers than to do it myself. > On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And no, I'm not going to disconnect it... I find it preferable to let > the car nag reluctant passengers than to do it myself. I'm the same way when it comes to the seatbelt chime. My Dad always asks "how do I shut that damned thing off"? And I say "try putting your seatbelt on". Works every time. >> On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >"how do I shut that damned thing off"? And I say "try putting your seatbelt >on". Works every time. You are both more generous than I am. I tell my passengers that my car won't start until I hear that click. Wanna argue? Get out and walk. >>> On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > car won't start until I hear that click. Wanna argue? Get out and > walk. I'm usually the same, but I was always taught not to kick Dad out of the car ;) >>>> On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I'm usually the same, but I was always taught not to kick Dad out of the > car ;) I've got a Styrofoam box with lid some frozen steaks where shipped in, it stays in the trunk and is large enough for most of the things that need to be kept cold on hot days. Now you guys got me hungry for ice cream, damit. >> On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > asks "how do I shut that damned thing off"? And I say "try putting your > seatbelt on". Works every time. Actually, read the owners manual, you can disable it easily > On Jun 12, 11:41 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And no, I'm not going to disconnect it... I find it preferable to let > the car nag reluctant passengers than to do it myself. Buckle the belt around the bags. Makes the chime go away and helps hold your groceries in place when some idiot pulls out in front of you. > $1000 option? For shopping, I just put the bags with the ice cream > and meat on the front seat, in the shade, and aim a vent at it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --Vic Just pick up a Coleman electric cooler. Toss it in the trunk and connect it to 12 V power. They use a peltier junction device. Connected in normal mode it cools, reverse the polarity and you can use it to keep food hot!  SignatureSteve W. >> $1000 option? For shopping, I just put the bags with the ice cream >> and meat on the front seat, in the shade, and aim a vent at it. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > normal mode it cools, reverse the polarity and you can use it to keep > food hot! Then you'll have to talk to Chev and get them to put a 12v plugin in the trunk.. .lik ethey should anyway and every car should have 3 in the front, two in the back and at least one in the trunk >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > --Vic Why not bring a small cooler if it takes you that long to get home > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. VW had a cool box in the dash, I believe...Same technology. Could possibly be useful Actually the trunks of most cars ARE cooled by the AC, via vents in the trunk. Put a thermometer in your trunk and see for yourself if your cars trunk is one that is cooled, WBMA >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. > > VW had a cool box in the dash, I believe...Same technology. > Could possibly be useful > Actually the trunks of most cars ARE cooled by the AC, via vents in the > trunk. Put a thermometer in your trunk and see for yourself > if your cars trunk is one that is cooled, WBMA He is probably the remaining GM engineer. >> Actually the trunks of most cars ARE cooled by the AC, via vents in the >> trunk. Put a thermometer in your trunk and see for yourself >> if your cars trunk is one that is cooled, WBMA > >He is probably the remaining GM engineer. Not sure what you point is unless it's that GM, at least at one time, ran the inside conditioned air thru the door jam vent which then exited thru the trunk, thereby cooling the trunk with the exiting AC air. >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. > > VW had a cool box in the dash, I believe...Same technology. > Could possibly be useful I think the new Dodge Nitro (perhaps another model), has a cooler built into the dash, where the glove box would be on most cars. Neat idea, but like someone else said, the trunk is usually cool as it is, and if you are going to the beach, or a long road trip, you're better off taking a cooler anyways. >>> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >>> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you are going to the beach, or a long road trip, you're better off > taking a cooler anyways. If you're grocery shopping and have a long drive home, just fold the back seat down. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >>> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > going to the beach, or a long road trip, you're better off taking a cooler > anyways. Yup nothing like losing valuable storage space so you can keep a can of soda pop cool. I mean why invest in a $10-$20 insulated cooler when the car companies will sell you one for $1000. Tell me why Chrysler is bankrupt yet again? >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. > > VW had a cool box in the dash, I believe...Same technology. > Could possibly be useful Cool box... hrm.. how many cans will it hold ;) I think Jeep has one too > Cool box... hrm.. how many cans will it hold ;) > > I think Jeep has one too I suspect a couple of sandwiches and a couple of cans of beverage. Not the worst of all ideas, I guess. Or maybe a sixpack and you can forget all that damned bread > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. Now I know why I don't pay much attention to your posts. "Scott" <homealone@alone.com> wrote in news:wgQYl.13196$im1.10919 @nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com: >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. > > Now I know why I don't pay much attention to your posts. Yep pretty retarted. KB SignatureTHUNDERSNAKE #9 Protect your rights or "Lose" them The 2nd Admendment guarantees the others > Refrigerating the trunk when needed is not difficult. All that is needed is > extra styrofoam insulation in the trunk compartment and lid, a duct from > the evaporator and a servo flap valve linked to the dashboard air-con > control panel. I've got a car with a fold down back seat. It's nice when you are putting skis in the trunk or even a 2 X 4 board. Anyway, if you fold the seat down, the trunk is air conditioned. I'll sell this "new" invention to you. If the price is right, I'll even throw in some styrofoam that you can use to insulate it. P.S. The car is a 1998 model. > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the evaporator and a servo flap valve linked to the dashboard air-con > control panel. So freeze your own ice and invest $20 into your own 50 quart cooler. What's the problem here??? Who the hell needs $1000 a/c in a truck when you can BUY A $20 INSULATED COOLER!!!!!! > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Per maggiori informazioni |For more info > https://www.mixmaster.it It'll be the mobsters car! 2011 Chevrolet Caprice Classic with trunk cooling, capable of preserving bodies in transportation > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. (snip) Not a chance in hell will this ever happen. You can barely get the auto manufacturers to put vents in the back seat let alone the trunk. The environmental crowd would probably have a fit since you're increasing your "carbon footprint" to extend the A/C to the trunk and make it work harder. As the others have said, put a light styrofoam cooler in the trunk and be done with it. Derek Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in you trunk, to prove it to yourself as was suggested, if that is what you still want to believe LOL >> People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, >> groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Derek > Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in you trunk, to prove it to > yourself as was suggested, if that is what you still want to believe LOL There are no A/C vents in the trunk of my 2005 Mercury Sable. After reading your earlier post I decided to inspect it closely. I had just returned from a trip with the A/C and it was hotter in there than the passenger compartment, so I'd say you're incorrect. Now that I'm reminded about it, I'm still steamed about the fact that they REMOVED the rear seat A/C vents from the 2005 model!!! My wife's 2001 Sable had vents back there located in the back of the console. Why they felt they had to spend money to engineer the feature out and save a nickle a car or something is beyond me. It's exactly that kind of stupid behavior that Alan Mulally has tried to put a stop to. Derek Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in your trunk, to prove it to yourself as was suggested. >> Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in you trunk, to prove it to >> yourself as was suggested, if that is what you still want to believe [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Derek > Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in your trunk, to prove it to > yourself as was suggested. I don't need to. The trunk felt much warmer than the passenger compartment I'd just exited. There are NO vents from which cooled air could be distributed to the trunk. None. Na-da. Derek You mean none you can find, but if you do check the temperature you will discover it is indeed cooler but not as cool as the passenger compartment. The reason is quite simple, manufacturers are not willing to go to the EXTRA expense required to cool ONLY the passenger compartment LOL. >> Apparently you have not placed a thermometer in your trunk, to prove it >> to yourself as was suggested. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Derek > People transport heat-sensitive items in the trunk. Cameras & film, CDs, > groceries and whatever get cooked in the closed trunk. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Per maggiori informazioni |For more info > https://www.mixmaster.it perhaps this picture will give you some ideas how to fix the problem: <http://media.photobucket.com/image/car%20air%20conditioner/ kimandchris2/Redneck%20Stuff/RedneckCarAirConditioner.jpg> |
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