Here's the deal, I have had problems with the powersteering on this car in
that it leaks fluid. When I parked it last time I could really hear the
powersteering pump struggling. Then when I went out to start it next time
the starter just "clicked" once and that was it. Now it won't crank and I
seem to have lost all output from the battery. (The battery is fine by the
way, we even tried a brand new one today)
My own theory is that the engine couldn't overcome the force required to
turn the powersteering mechanism and one of those "fusable links" the
manual mentions has burned to protect the starter. I've tried to turn on
my headlights - nothing. Tried cranking it, nothing, the only life
indication I get really is the ding-dong for the seatbelt warning.
Where should I be looking for this fusable link exactly, I think that's
what burned?
Kevin - 15 Aug 2004 15:54 GMT
Take the starter out and take it too a local auto parts store and have it
tested.
> Here's the deal, I have had problems with the powersteering on this car in
> that it leaks fluid. When I parked it last time I could really hear the
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> Where should I be looking for this fusable link exactly, I think that's
> what burned?
Bob Urz - 15 Aug 2004 16:26 GMT
> Here's the deal, I have had problems with the powersteering on this car in
> that it leaks fluid. When I parked it last time I could really hear the
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> turn the powersteering mechanism and one of those "fusable links" the
> manual mentions has burned to protect the starter.
I've tried to turn on my headlights - nothing.
Well, there is your smoking gun. No power. The headlights have nothing
to do with the starter. If you don't have a bad cable, you have a bad
connection. Find the lug for the hot cable and take it off the relay and
clean it and retighten it. Find the battery to ground cable and take
it off the motor, clean it and put it back on.
Once you get the headlights back on, move on to the starter.
Bob
Tried cranking it, nothing, the only life
> indication I get really is the ding-dong for the seatbelt warning.
>
> Where should I be looking for this fusable link exactly, I think that's
> what burned?
Frank from Deeeetroit - 16 Aug 2004 18:32 GMT
I assume the battery works well.
You did not mention the condition of the battery cables. I would check both
ends, of both cables, for frayed ends, and for the proper connection. Once
the connection issues has been determined and/or corrected, you can move on.
The power steering pump replacement will make the Pope curse. The bracket
can hold up a battleship and you need a special wheel puller to remove the
pulley from the power steering pump, in order to remove the pump from the
pump bracket. No easy way to do it. I have a 93 Aerostar, and I removed
the pump and bracket assembly whole, then removed the pulley from the pump.
Then replaced everything in reverse order.
Doulbe check the source of the leak, the leak may be from the pump and or
the rack and pinion assembly. The rack and pinion replacement was easier
than the pump replacement, did both on seperate weekends.
A rebuilt pump, ran about $50.00, a replacement rack and pinion ran about
$110.00. Once replaced, the old van runs good, steers great, and does not
leak.
Hope this helps.
Frank from Deeeetroit
> Here's the deal, I have had problems with the powersteering on this car in
> that it leaks fluid. When I parked it last time I could really hear the
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> Where should I be looking for this fusable link exactly, I think that's
> what burned?
Gnirren - 17 Aug 2004 04:30 GMT
I've discovered something weird today. I walked out to the car, put the key
in and turned it to the ON position just before the starter is engaged and
my instrument lights came on. I then turned on the headlights and they
worked fine.
I then tried to crank the engine and all I got was an audible "click" and
then the whole system went dead again. Headlights and instrument lights
just died and that was it.
Seem strange to me, if it was indeed a fusable link then the headlights
should be dead - period.
I'm now using a brand new battery and we've cleaned the connectors and
everything. My thinking is that the starter is somehow tripping a fuse or
circuit breaker of some sort, to protect it when I try to crank the engine
but I'm not sure. It's pretty strange.
atec - 17 Aug 2004 05:11 GMT
sounds like you have a bad connection on a heavy amps lead from or to
the battery
> I've discovered something weird today. I walked out to the car, put the key
> in and turned it to the ON position just before the starter is engaged and
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> circuit breaker of some sort, to protect it when I try to crank the engine
> but I'm not sure. It's pretty strange.

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Frank from Deeeetroit - 17 Aug 2004 10:11 GMT
Pull the starter and take it to the local parts store. They can bench test
the starter to see how much of a power draw the starter pulls. If the power
draw is too much, you will have to replace the starter, easy, it is out of
the car anyways. Don' remember if the starter relay is part of the starter
or not, but the problem may lie there, as well.
Frank
> I've discovered something weird today. I walked out to the car, put the key
> in and turned it to the ON position just before the starter is engaged and
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> circuit breaker of some sort, to protect it when I try to crank the engine
> but I'm not sure. It's pretty strange.
Martin Rogoff - 17 Aug 2004 17:19 GMT
>Pull the starter and take it to the local parts store. They can bench test
>the starter to see how much of a power draw the starter pulls. If the power
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>
>Frank
The 7? Granada and the 91 and 95 Taurus and the 2000 Super Duty trucks
all have a starter relay that is separate from the starter. The
starter relay is mounted on the fender above the wheel well. On the
91 Taurus the red positive cable goes straight from the battery to the
starter relay. That point is used as the distribution point for 12V
for the entire car. The stud and nut that has the positive cable from
the battery connected also has three or four lugs connected. These
other lugs have the fusible links for the fuse box and ignition.
When we blew a fusible link the car would not start. About the only
thing that worked were the headlights and power mirrors.
I would second the suggestion to check the large wiring connected to
the battery and feeding the starter and to get the starter checked.
IceMan - 22 Aug 2004 20:34 GMT
I had the same problem with a car that everything on the dash would light up
untill I tried to start the car...
Turned out it was the ignition switch shorting out
IceMan
>>Pull the starter and take it to the local parts store. They can bench test
>>the starter to see how much of a power draw the starter pulls. If the power
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>I would second the suggestion to check the large wiring connected to
>the battery and feeding the starter and to get the starter checked.