I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with the 5.8
(351 clev) engine. I made a round trip of aprox. 220 miles and went through
20 gallons of gas. The problem started about 20 miles into the trip, bad
idle, lots of black smoke, stumbling @part throttle. Check engine light did
not come on. Fuel filter was changed about 400 miles ago, just checked air
filter before trip and looked just like new (has about 1k on it), oil and
filter was changed about 800 miles ago. Total miles is 129k.
Thank You
> I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with the 5.8
> (351 clev) engine.
No, you don't. It's a 351W (Windsor).
I made a round trip of aprox. 220 miles and went through
> 20 gallons of gas. The problem started about 20 miles into the trip, bad
> idle, lots of black smoke, stumbling @part throttle. Check engine light did
> not come on. Fuel filter was changed about 400 miles ago, just checked air
> filter before trip and looked just like new (has about 1k on it), oil and
> filter was changed about 800 miles ago. Total miles is 129k.
> Thank You
Sounds like leaking fuel injector(s). Get it on a scope, or at least
check your plugs to pin it down.
Rob
Backyard Mechanic - 04 Nov 2004 14:58 GMT
>> I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with
>> the 5.8 (351 clev) engine.
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>
> Rob
could also be bad fuel pressure regulator
Remove the tube from the fuel pressure regulator to intake, check for gas
presence.
Mark - 04 Nov 2004 17:29 GMT
>>> I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with
>>> the 5.8 (351 clev) engine.
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> Remove the tube from the fuel pressure regulator to intake, check for gas
> presence.
Thanks for the info. Now next question, where is the reg. at? I'm not
familier with
fords.
Thanks Again:)
Backyard Mechanic - 05 Nov 2004 01:40 GMT
>>>> I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with
>>>> the 5.8 (351 clev) engine.
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> fords.
> Thanks Again:)
Usually on the Injector fuel rail, It's sort of a "can shape" about 2 inches
dia by 1.5 high... nipple to soft 1/4 inch hose to intake behind (as the air
flows) throttle body
Mark - 05 Nov 2004 17:48 GMT
>>>>> I hope someone on here can help. I have an e-150 conversion van with
>>>>> the 5.8 (351 clev) engine.
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> air
> flows) throttle body
I pulled the plugs yesterday, and they were fouled and worn down, champions
btw. Then I checked the cap and rotor, The cantacts was worn and pitted. I
am replacing these today, that should help alot. The new plugs are Bosch and
the cap and rotor are BWDs with lifetime warranty and brass contacts. I hope
this helps alot, as I am on a limited income.
Thanks for all the info Guys!
mdeee - 05 Nov 2004 20:44 GMT
> >> "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote
> in message
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> this helps alot, as I am on a limited income.
> Thanks for all the info Guys!
What year van is this?
You?re wasting your time by replacing the plugs as well as the cap and
rotor if you haven?t resolved fuel system problem. The plugs will just
foul out again and the cap & rotor will have no effect on your
problem. Check the fuel pressure regulator for fuel in the vacuum hose
as suggested. If you find no fuel in the vacuum hose, have the fuel
pressure checked with a fuel pressure gauge and have the trouble codes
checked. You may have excessive fuel pressure or a sensor circuit
problem.
P.S. take the Bosch plugs back and get Autolite or MotorCraft.
Mark - 05 Nov 2004 21:16 GMT
> > >> "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote
> > in message
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>
> P.S. take the Bosch plugs back and get Autolite or MotorCraft.
Why take the Bosch plugs back? I always had gl with them. As with the cap
and rotor, they needed to be replaced as the contacts was worn and pitted. I
do have fuel present at the vacuum line. Now how do I remove it? There is no
apparent way to remove the fuel lines.
Again thanks to all the suggestions!
Mark
mdeee - 05 Nov 2004 23:14 GMT
> > > "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com>
> wrote in message
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> abuse:
> > http://www.AutoForumz.com/eform.php?p=351293
If you have fuel leaking out of the fuel pressure regulator into the
vacuum hose you need to replace the fuel pressure regulator because
the internal diaphragm has ruptured. The pressure regulator is
attached to the fuel rail by 3 screws on the underside of the fuel
rail.
Replacing the cap & rotor may be good maintenance but it will not
correct your current problem. Use the Bosch plugs if you want to, I?ve
just seen too many drivability problems caused by them. I have to
warranty all of the work I do so I use parts I can trust.
Mark - 05 Nov 2004 23:45 GMT
> > > > "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com>
> > wrote in message
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> just seen too many drivability problems caused by them. I have to
> warranty all of the work I do so I use parts I can trust.
What I need to know is how to remove the lins as there is no apparent way to
remove them.
Thanks!
Mark
Bob - 06 Nov 2004 00:56 GMT
> What I need to know is how to remove the lins as there is no apparent way
> to remove them.
> Thanks!
> Mark
A special tool is needed to release the spring coupler. It's a fairly cheap
tool but you don't need to remove the fuel lines to replace the regulator.
Just remove the 3 screws from the bottom of the regulator and lift it off.
Bob