Not quite... we seem to be having a battle of the idiots here!
SAYS the car was on a lease, that's not a Rental.. Rental, there's no real
penalty for turn-in value.
7 year old news?!!!
- Otis has probably been through 3 body shop mangers in that time
BUT The door is the least of it!
http://www.otisfordsucks.com/ir.asp
Bottom line:
Otis-hater - Shi! happens, grow up.
"I'm Right" - what is it you do for a living, again?
Mis-Information Director?
>Not quite... we seem to be having a battle of the idiots here!
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>Mis-Information Director?
Actually, technically a lease IS renting. The difference between a
rental and a lease is a lease is for a fixed term at a fixed price.
A rental is generally for an unpecified term, and the rate can change
from day to day, or month to month - what-ever.
In an automotive or equipment lease, there is USUALLY a provision for
the Leasee to "buy out" the lease at a predetermined price at the end
of the term, and a formula to get out of the contract before
maturity.
There is also a condition clause - the vehicle must be returned in an
acceptable condition - and if Otis installed used parts, it is assumed
the used parts were acceptable to them.
The car was still "owned" by Otis Ford, or Ford Credit / Ford Leasing,
whatever - so THEY fix it to their satisfaction.
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca - 09 Nov 2004 18:06 GMT
Upon looking at the other info on the guy's site, it does look like
the shop did shoddy work - but using a "used door" per-se was not the
problem.
lugnut - 10 Nov 2004 19:02 GMT
>Upon looking at the other info on the guy's site, it does look like
>the shop did shoddy work - but using a "used door" per-se was not the
>problem.
Having read the "independant" vehicle inspection report, I
would consider the vehicle unacceptable since the structural
damage was not properly repaired nor, were some of the welds
correctly done or proper refinishing completed. These are
serious problems well beyond the door which I find to be
acceptable on a leased vehicle. If that report is accurate,
I would do everything in my power to make the dealership eat
the sucker ASAP. I would not spend this many years of my
life picketing and getting even - it's too expensive. If
the insurance company can't/won't step in to correct the
problem, just sue the bastards! The problem with a leased
vehicle is the potential to have the vehicle appraised well
below what it would have been worth in the absence of prior
damage or improper repair at trade time. To me, improper
repair is less acceptable than a vehicle that has been
damaged and properly repaired. I have no problem with a
good used door properly repaired. Many insurance companies
will not use new parts beyond a certain age or mileage
unless the new parts are comparably priced. It would appear
that the adjuster built in a few freebies to make sure the
vehicle was properly repaired eliminating any excuses for
the vehicle to be slipshod reapired.