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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / January 2005

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AC/Heater & Panel Vents - 1989 Tempo

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IceWizard - 30 Jan 2005 23:49 GMT
I have a 1989 Tempo that started having a new problem today.  My
AC/Heater will work fine, but no matter what option I have chosen
(Defrost, Floor, Panel) the air will not come out of the front panels,
only the other outputs.  I unsuccessfully tried to look through my
Chilton's guide and try to see what the problem is, but I wasn't able
to.

What should I look into?  It seems like those vents simply won't
"open" internally.  Everything else works as it is supposed to.

Thanks
Backyard Mechanic - 31 Jan 2005 02:47 GMT
> I have a 1989 Tempo that started having a new problem today.  My
> AC/Heater will work fine, but no matter what option I have chosen
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> Thanks

Just so i understand:

It works with the floor, most comes out to the floor.. some defrost.

Mixed = floor & defrost

defrost - most defrost
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So the first thing I would look for is the vents themselves are closed

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IceWizard - 31 Jan 2005 02:52 GMT
>Just so i understand:
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>So the first thing I would look for is the vents themselves are closed

Correct.  It seems as if the vents themselves are closed, but the part
I can actually open/close is open.  It's like there is an internal
vent which is shut.

From reading various postings about other types of cars, I know some
cars have a vacuum line which "opens" an internal vent.  I've been
unable to confirm if my 89 Ford tempo does or does not.  It seems as
if that internal vent is what is causing the problem, but I'm at a
loss as to how it is controlled.

Thanks :)
Backyard Mechanic - 31 Jan 2005 04:53 GMT
>>Just so i understand:
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> Thanks :)

So you see nothing on the front of the heater box under the dash, which is
moving with the control?

Would be vac operated as you say, listewn close for a vacuum leak.  Is your
engine idling high?

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Jerry - 31 Jan 2005 14:44 GMT
> Correct.  It seems as if the vents themselves are closed, but the part
> I can actually open/close is open.  It's like there is an internal
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> if that internal vent is what is causing the problem, but I'm at a
> loss as to how it is controlled.
So there is some door which isn't opening.  You might read my posting about
my '98 Club Wagon, so see an extreme example of what can happen, although I
seriously doubt that your floor-air door has the actuator that is needed for
a temperature blender door.  Nevertheless, my problem was caused by breakage
of plastic.  For some reason, my blender door didn't want to move, and the
powerful impeller moved anyway; something had to break, and that was the
plastic sheath formed by the molded plastic door itself.
I started out hoping to find a failed vacuum line, but that was not the
case, at all.
Your floor door is probably vacuum-motor actuated.  You can get a vacuum
gun, and attach it to the motor, once you find it.  Then you simulate the
actions of your system, to produce vacuum at the motor (diaphragm).  No
movement indicates failed motor.  Conversely, put vacuum gauge on the
controlling tube, and observe; presence of vacuum at appropriate time
exonerates controlling mechanism upstream.  So you buy another vacuum
actuator ("motor") and be done with it.

Good luck.
Divide and conquer; classic t/s.
Tom Adkins - 31 Jan 2005 09:37 GMT
> I have a 1989 Tempo that started having a new problem today.  My
> AC/Heater will work fine, but no matter what option I have chosen
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>
> Thanks

 Going on old recollections, I recall a vacuum line on the Tempo\Topaz that would get
pulled off of the mode door actuator easily and cause this problem. I'm thinking
behind the glovebox. Pull the glovebox down, there are 2 tabs to release it. Check for
a vacuum actuator back there, over to the left. Or, pull the radio out and look back
toward the heater box for an actuator. The really easy one to get to is the blend
door, way over on the right side of the heater box. The blend door is not your problem
though.
 Sorry, best I could do. It's been a while since I've worked on a Tempo.
            Tom
 
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