I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Somebody poured oil in the radiator or
oil got in your coolant passages when the head work was done. Sloppy
work by mechanics that didn't flush the cooling system out.
Its more common to have transmission oil mix with the antifreeze if the
trans cooler leaks inside the radiator tank.
Good Luck.
H
>I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Some cars use a coolant that is non-silca based. Uses organic
components, that over time, seem to create a 'slick'.
What color coolant do you have?
later,
tom @ www.Love-Calculators.com
The vehicle model & year might help. Anyway, assuming the cooling system
was thoroughly flushed during the head gasket repair, some Ford products
have an oil filter adapter plate bolted to the block, with a gasket
between the plate & block to prevent leaks. The coolant and oil passages
are both in this interface. A bad gasket here can allow oil to seep into
the coolant. A very small amount of oil in the coolant isn't abnormal,
but if you can actually see the oil separated out in your coolant
overflow, that gasket has likely ruptured; not good!
> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com - 10 Feb 2005 15:05 GMT
>The vehicle model & year might help. Anyway, assuming the cooling system
>was thoroughly flushed during the head gasket repair, some Ford products
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>but if you can actually see the oil separated out in your coolant
>overflow, that gasket has likely ruptured; not good!
Door swings both ways with head gasket problems. Pull your oil dip
stick, if it loose 'frothy' then you could have a real problem.
>> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
later,
tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
Pat - 11 Feb 2005 03:12 GMT
97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
Ford replaced head gasket and flushed.
I took it back to Ford a month or so later and they flushed again.
Still got oil a month later. 1 inch or so in overflow.
> The vehicle model & year might help. Anyway, assuming the cooling system
> was thoroughly flushed during the head gasket repair, some Ford products
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>> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Sharon K.Cooke - 11 Feb 2005 15:26 GMT
My guess would be that oil filter adapter gasket that I told you about
earlier. The oil pressure can get up to 100 psi or so, while the coolant
pressure is maybe 15 psi maximum. If there's even a tiny crack at the
oil/coolant interface gasket, the oil WILL migrate. That used to be
called "tramp oil".
> 97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
> Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
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> >> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Good a time as any to introduce myself.... Ford Senior tech... getting close
to 40 years breaking my back.
It might help if we knew what you're working on.... year - model - engine -
trans...Even WITH that info, it can be a guess... without it......
A lot of late Ford products are equipped with fluid to fluid oil coolers...
Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net
> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Pat - 11 Feb 2005 17:11 GMT
97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
Ford replaced head gasket and flushed.
I took it back to Ford a month or so later and they flushed again.
Still got oil a month later. 1 inch or so in overflow.
> Good a time as any to introduce myself.... Ford Senior tech... getting
> close
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>> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Hank - 11 Feb 2005 18:12 GMT
> 97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
> Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
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> >> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Usually it is the head gasket, but not always. Here are some of the things
it could be: Warped head, cracked head, or a cracked block. Probably other
things too, but these are the most common.
Hank
Pat - 12 Feb 2005 02:52 GMT
Ford wants to put another motor into it now and they are not sure if a
replacement motor can be found. I am not sure if I want to pay for one.
They charged me $1100 for the head gasket.
>> 97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
>> Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
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> Hank
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com - 12 Feb 2005 04:31 GMT
>> Pat <dancing@onlinemac.removecom> wrote in message
IMHO:
If you paid for a service and they didn't do it, then shouldn't you be
refunded? Or atleast credited the amount to another engine?
I mean, you didn't intend to pay for a faulty job, so there is an
implied warranty.
Just thinking out loud...
later,
tom @ www.MedicalJobList.com
Jim Warman - 12 Feb 2005 05:39 GMT
Rather than a repeat failure, I would consider neglecting to flush the
cooling system properly. This guck will cling on to the cooling system
internals only to surface later. I work on a lot of diesels with oil to
coolant oil coolers. When these go bad, I can spend several hours flushing
the cooling system properly. Low susdsing detergent (like those for a
dishwasher) help, but it is still a lengthy process.
HTH.
> 97 Ford Aspire with 93,000 miles.
> Found oil in radiator and coolant overflow.
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> >> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Pat - 12 Feb 2005 06:24 GMT
Ford flushed the radiator when they did the work and again a month later.
They told me the flush included some sort of detergent. I am going to drive
it another month or two and monitor it.
> Rather than a repeat failure, I would consider neglecting to flush the
> cooling system properly. This guck will cling on to the cooling system
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>> >> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?
Jim Warman - 12 Feb 2005 07:31 GMT
Last one I did was subsatntially larger in cooling system capacity (not to
mention oil capacity).... 6.0 litre diesel. Coolant strength and temperature
ranges play into the equation. Bottom line was something over 6.5 hours of
flushing and coolant exchanges (no, I didn't use antifreeze until I was
happy with what was coming out). I have another with over 11 liters of oil
in the cooling system..... I expect to have a bit more trouble with this
one.
After two different subsystems have "swapped spit", it can be hard to clean
up the remnants but it must be done to avoid any confusion in repeat
concerns. I understand that your repair was a retail job? This makes it even
more difficult as the financial burden of a lengthy clean up will fall
dorectly on the consumers shoulders.
One piece of advice I offer up regularly..... the cheapest thing that any of
us will ever do with a car is buy it.
> Ford flushed the radiator when they did the work and again a month later.
> They told me the flush included some sort of detergent. I am going to drive
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> >> >> I have had the head gasket replaced. What else might cause this?