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gerald smith@impco.com - 31 Mar 2005 00:26 GMT
>>> Dean
>>
>> Internal combustion engines create water when running.

to which picknose replies
>It doesn't create water, the water is already in the air it takes in for
>combustion in the form of humidity. That humidity just condenses in the exhaust
>as it cools. Live in a very humid area, you get a fair amount of water out the
>exhaust, live in a dry climate you get less.

lmfao
um no
in higher ELEVATION you get less
i see you have never taken chemistry
with that in mind i bet u cant even tune
up a vehicle

that would also explain why  u dont understand how a cat can overheat
an engine u ask where the O2 came from u had better understand a
reduction reaction
i would take a chemistry course if i were you
chemestry is mandantory under the canadian apprentice program
if you need tutoring
if i can help you in any way just ping me

hurc ast
pick one - 31 Mar 2005 01:08 GMT
>>>> Dean
>>>
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> with that in mind i bet u cant even tune
> up a vehicle

Sure the altitude or elevation of a given city can play a part in humidity
levels. There are more things that go into it. Example:
Denver, CO has an average relative humidity level of 15% and has an elevation of
5193 feet with an average barometric pressure of 30.14 in. Phoenix, AZ has an
average relative humidity level of 14% has an elevation of 1117 feet with an
average of 29.90 in. barometric pressure. Denver has an elevation of 4076 feet
higher than Phoenix yet has a higher average humidity level and barometric
pressure. Looks like you left pressure out of the equation. You also left out
temperature. Warmer air also tends to have more moisture. Basically I don't need
your help. As I said, more moisture in the air more water out the exhaust, less
moisture in the air les water out the exhaust. More moisture is higher humidity
less moisture is less humidity. My statement "Live in a very humid area, you get
a fair amount of water out the exhaust, live in a dry climate you get less."
stands.

> that would also explain why  u dont understand how a cat can overheat
> an engine u ask where the O2 came from u had better understand a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> hurc ast
gerald smith@impco.com - 31 Mar 2005 02:53 GMT
>>>>> Dean
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>a fair amount of water out the exhaust, live in a dry climate you get less."
>stands.

lmfao
so if i live in a humid part  i breath out glasses of water

lmfao

hey tard its the mixture that is responsable for the water

heres a bone for ya

lmfao

here i will show you the math

 Hydrocarbon fuel combustion under ideal conditions would produce
carbon dioxide and water as the only products

CnHm+po2+3.76p N2....nco2 +(m/2)h2o+3.76N2+deltaH deg c

u just failed your red seal test
i suggest u brush up on your chemistry

hurc ast
pick one - 31 Mar 2005 03:32 GMT
>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>
> hurc ast

>>> lmfao
>>> um no
>>> in higher ELEVATION you get less
>>> i see you have never taken chemistry
>>> with that in mind i bet u cant even tune
>>> up a vehicle

Look moron, you got that idea from C.E. White's post to me.

Up to that point in time of your cave man grunt you were claiming that ELEVATION
was the total part of the equation. You did not even begin to mention any parts
of the combustion process and it's chemical out put. Unlike you I can admit when
I may not know something or fully understand something. The fact is the water in
exhaust comes from both the air used for the combustion process and the process
it self.  How much from the process is arguable, but why? So some poor racist of
middle eastern descent that some how was able too move to Canada can get his/her
jollies? I doubt you have such profound knowledge you claim. Am I going to take
the time to check your math, no I don't give a sh.t if it's correct or made up.
gerald smith@impco.com - 31 Mar 2005 04:15 GMT
>>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 76 lines]
>jollies? I doubt you have such profound knowledge you claim. Am I going to take
>the time to check your math, no I don't give a sh.t if it's correct or made up.

yup thats what i thought
and when it rains your car puts out gallons of water
lmfao
BWHAHAHAHAHA
you just failed your red seal test

hurc ast
gerald smith@impco.com - 31 Mar 2005 03:45 GMT
>>>>> Dean
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>a fair amount of water out the exhaust, live in a dry climate you get less."
>stands.

lmfao
so if i live in a humid part  i breath out glasses of water

lmfao

hey tard its the mixture that is responsable for the water

heres a bone for ya

lmfao

here i will show you the math

 Hydrocarbon fuel combustion under ideal conditions would produce
carbon dioxide and water as the only products

CnHm+po2+3.76p N2....nco2 +(m/2)h2o+3.76N2+deltaH deg c

u just failed your red seal test
i suggest u brush up on your chemistry

hurc ast
pick one - 31 Mar 2005 12:20 GMT
>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> lmfao
> so if i live in a humid part  i breath out glasses of water

Breath out on glass, liquid condenses.

> lmfao
>
> hey tard its the mixture that is responsable for the water

Both, show it's not. Show where the water in the air does not come out the
exhaust.

> heres a bone for ya
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> hurc ast
tom - 31 Mar 2005 23:23 GMT
u just failed your red seal test
> i suggest u brush up on your chemistry

RED SEAL... thats what you get when you bash a seal in the head with a 64
ounce louieville slugger, rite???

> >>>>>> Dean
> >>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
> >
> > hurc ast
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca - 31 Mar 2005 19:03 GMT
>>>>> Dean
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>a fair amount of water out the exhaust, live in a dry climate you get less."
>stands.

Possibly a SMALL difference, but hardly noticeable.
The FACT is, that for every gallon of gasoline burned, very close to a
gallon of moisture is produced (if burned cleanly and efficiently).
Now, if the exhaust is fully heated up, most of that moisture leaves
as an invisible vapour cloud, except on cold days when the resultant
dew-point combination makes the cloud visible. If the exhaust is not
sufficiently heated up, the moisture condenses in the pipes and drips
from the tailpipe.

>> that would also explain why  u dont understand how a cat can overheat
>> an engine u ask where the O2 came from u had better understand a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> hurc ast
gerald smith@impco.com - 01 Apr 2005 00:16 GMT
>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>sufficiently heated up, the moisture condenses in the pipes and drips
>from the tailpipe.

if you look up the vapor trail from hi altitude jets is water
its so cold up there  you see the cloud for hours

hurc ast

>>> that would also explain why  u dont understand how a cat can overheat
>>> an engine u ask where the O2 came from u had better understand a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>> hurc ast
 
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