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1989 ford crown vic pulls after new brakes installed

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gyrene - 13 Apr 2005 01:03 GMT
car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
cleaned and adjusted rear brakes.  Car can be driven a few miles and it
will not pull.  All of a sudden when braking, it will pull.  If I slam on
brakes it doesn't seem to pull.  When I brake normally, i.e., traffic
light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
suggestions?  Thank you.
rjtvd - 13 Apr 2005 01:46 GMT
> car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
> new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
> suggestions?  Thank you.

It sounds like you have a restriction in one of the front brake hoses
(read separation). Relace both hoses and bleed system. Good luck
fordsrus12473@yahoo.com - 13 Apr 2005 01:51 GMT
>car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
>new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
>suggestions?  Thank you.
tire pressure
bad caliper
misadjusted rear brake
ball joints
tie ends
wheel brngs
sliders
contamination on assembly
glazed rotor
rear drums not  within .030 of each other
castor
u tell me

hurc ast
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 01:59 GMT
That's real great advice... the customers at your dealership must love
you

But then again if they are smart they probably keep you waaaaaay in the
back sweeping up the speedy dry

Better check those used oil containers, looks like they're getting full
fordsrus12473@yahoo.com - 13 Apr 2005 02:09 GMT
>That's real great advice... the customers at your dealership must love
>you
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Better check those used oil containers, looks like they're getting full

lmfao
what advice did you give?

btw i left 3 out
which ones were they?

tell me what would you check next?

hurc ast
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 02:54 GMT
I would check how deep the dent in your head was with a tire iron, then
I would urinate on your "red seal"

Difference between you and most everyone else is that you obviously
have something to prove.  But I can't decide if it's not knowing how to
type or a bad command of the English language.

Anyway, your the self proclaimed Ford "expert" and you do nothing but
bait everyone to challenge your vast knowledge of ... what I don't
know.

And btw, I didn't see you list air in the lines anywhere, so
bwahahahahaha to you too, hurc a.s
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 02:06 GMT
Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.
How about the brakes being bled?  Is it possible you have air in one of
the lines?
fordsrus12473@yahoo.com - 13 Apr 2005 02:10 GMT
>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.
>How about the brakes being bled?  Is it possible you have air in one of
>the lines?
lmfao
i already said that
BWHAHAHAHAHA

hurc ast
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 02:44 GMT
>>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.

>>How about the brakes being bled?  Is it possible you have air in one of
>>the lines?

Look at the thread tree idiot, that was a response to the original
poster, not your nonsense, and google f'ed up because I posted that
before I took the troll bait and responded to your stupid post "you
tell me"
fordsrus12473@yahoo.com - 13 Apr 2005 03:16 GMT
>>>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>before I took the troll bait and responded to your stupid post "you
>tell me"
lmfao
look at the time of posts
lmfao

BUSTED

seems like yor the only troll here

lmfao

look whos trolling now

hurc ast
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 03:33 GMT
Google provides the stamp, not me hurc a.s

fordsrus12...@yahoo.com wrote:

> >>>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> hurc ast
Mark - 13 Apr 2005 12:29 GMT
>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.

That advice is as good as telling him to make sure the radio isn't on.
Shoe Salesman - 13 Apr 2005 13:35 GMT
>>Check the air pressure in the tires obviously if you haven't already.
>
> That advice is as good as telling him to make sure the radio isn't on.

And so is "rear drums not within .030 out of each other"....
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 15:32 GMT
Why, because tire pressure has no impact on a car pulling to one side
when braking?

And your advice would be?
Mark - 13 Apr 2005 16:59 GMT
>Why, because tire pressure has no impact on a car pulling to one side
>when braking?

It would have to be flat on the rim to react as he described.  The word
severe was used several times.

>And your advice would be?

Check the position of the power seats.  If they are fine, I would make sure
the rear defroster is not on.  Possibly check the washer fluid level as
well.

I know this makes sense to you, at least.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 13 Apr 2005 18:06 GMT
I've had low tires pull the steering one way, only in need of about 10
lbs of pressure, and were not flat on the rim as you suggest.  And how
"severe" is severe on usenet anyway?

So go ahead and replace everything before ruling out the obvious, if
that's how you fix stuff.  Seems like the original poster already did
that and no joy.

Hey, you don't like my advice?  Too bad, it's free.
Mark - 14 Apr 2005 17:33 GMT
>Hey, you don't like my advice?  Too bad, it's free.

And everyone here is certainly getting what they pay for from you, now
aren't they?

I like you.  You're my new play toy.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 14 Apr 2005 21:19 GMT
Wonderful, another hurc a.s to toss on the pile.  Not even trying to be
helpful... you've contributed zilch so far...

<< I like you.  You're my new play toy. >>

Sorry, I prefer the opposite sex... leave your personal orientation out
of it
Mark - 14 Apr 2005 21:33 GMT
>Not even trying to be
>helpful... you've contributed zilch so far...

On the contrary.  I've pointed out that your suggestions aren't worth squat
and you know it.

><< I like you.  You're my new play toy. >>
>
>Sorry, I prefer the opposite sex... leave your personal orientation out
>of it

Go fetch boyah.

You make me laugh because you think you have a clue.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 15 Apr 2005 04:25 GMT
>> On the contrary.  I've pointed out that your suggestions aren't
worth squat
>> and you know it.

10 lbs pressure loss combined with the crown in any given road would be
enough in most vehicles to pull to the right when braking to a stop.

Would this cause the car to pull to the left?  Don't know I never tried
it, it was a s-u-g-g-e-s-t-i-o-n, so blow me.
Mark - 15 Apr 2005 13:42 GMT
>>> On the contrary.  I've pointed out that your suggestions aren't
>worth squat
>>> and you know it.
>
>10 lbs pressure loss combined with the crown in any given road would be
>enough in most vehicles to pull to the right when braking to a stop.

Not severly.  You are mighty thick and proud of it, eh?  Don't forget to
check the air in the spare too.  LOL!

>it was a s-u-g-g-e-s-t-i-o-n, so blow me.

Somebody sure is fascinated with the same sex, now aren't they?  This is
the 3rd message to me where you've made such an offer.
sleepdog@optonline.net - 15 Apr 2005 15:46 GMT
"severe" ... usenet ... relative

Any pull in the steering is severe enough to warrant some concern.

What's your interest in Fords, or you're just another ricer with an
attitude?

Forget the euphemisms, all you get is an emphatic "FUM"
svend_ha_n_sen17@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2005 23:11 GMT
>"severe" ... usenet ... relative
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Forget the euphemisms, all you get is an emphatic "FUM"

lmfao'

study
study

someday u might be able to get a red seal

hurc ast
tom - 16 Apr 2005 00:15 GMT
why would anybody want a red seal???
we do not need any more of you a.sholes up there in cahnahdah going out and
clubbing baby seals to a bloody pulp.

> >"severe" ... usenet ... relative
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> hurc ast
omarsimms25793@hotmail.com - 16 Apr 2005 00:48 GMT
>why would anybody want a red seal???
>we do not need any more of you a.sholes up there in cahnahdah going out and
>clubbing baby seals to a bloody pulp.

lmfao
i like watching the marines get beheaded too
thats more fun than seals

GO IRAQ GO

hurc ast
Mark - 26 Apr 2005 11:46 GMT
>"severe" ... usenet ... relative
>
>Any pull in the steering is severe enough to warrant some concern.

Only in your little mind. Keep trying.  It's funny.
Rodney - 13 Apr 2005 05:09 GMT
> car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
> new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
> suggestions?  Thank you.

Is the pull the reason that you took the car to the shop?  Or did it
happen following a brake job or other service?

Rodney
C. E. White - 13 Apr 2005 10:35 GMT
> car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
> new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
> suggestions?  Thank you.

Sounds like one of the front brake calipers is hanging up.
After you drive a few miles carefully check the temperature
of the wheels on both sides of the car (don't burn your
hand). Chances are one side will be much hotter than the
other. The car will pull in the oppsite direction (away from
the hot rotor). A few possibilities of why this happens -
bad brake line (acts like a one way valve and keep slight
pressure on the pads), caliper not properly sliding on the
slider pins (needs lubrication), trash in the caliper
blocking proper fluid flow (you can force fluid in, but it
doesn't bleed back properly); piston hanging in the caliper.
When a caliper hangs, the brakes on that side are always on
slightly. It might not be enough to notice at first.
However, after a few miles, that brakes get really hot, and
the braking effectiveness is decreased on that side. So when
you apply the brakes to stop, the cooler brake on the
opposite side works much better and the car pulls to the
side of the cooler brake. When you first start out, but
brakes work properly, it is only after a few miles that the
pull starts.

Ed
lugnut - 13 Apr 2005 12:47 GMT
>car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
>new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
>suggestions?  Thank you.

I have seen this a couple times as a result of a faulty
calipre.  The problem is one of the calipres is not fully
releasing resulting in those pads being warmer than the
other side as you drive. When you apply the brakes, the
warmer pads are already up to optimum braking temperature
intead of needing a couple of turns to get there.  The only
fix I have seen is to replace both calipres because you
basically have no way of determining whether the problem is
a tight or loose piston or a bad casting.  Also, the brake
flex lines to the wheels can do this if the inner liner
separates resulting in a "check valve" effect retaining
pressure on one of the brakes even when released.  The
result is the same.  I have seen this occur right after a
brake job where the tech either dropped the calipre  while
it was still attached to the hose or simply left the calipre
hanging by the hose instead of tying it up with a wire to
support it while the brakes are being service as they should
be.  I suspect the calipre is your particular problem since
you say it needs to be driven a bit before the problem
occurs.
noname - 13 Apr 2005 13:59 GMT
Brake hose has a restriction. Rubber inside the hose old, clogged, should
have replaced those hoses with all the other work. Rookie mistake.

> car pulls hard left.  I have had it back to the shop 4 times.  New pads,
> new caliphers, new rotors, new seals, repack bearings, new wheel seals,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> light, stop sign, etc., it then pulls severely.  Anybody have any
> suggestions?  Thank you.
 
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