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Hello all, I am looking to get a new head for my 1993 Ford Explorer XLT engine after the intake valve on the middle cylender got damaged. Appearantly it's not closing properly and dumping the gas/air/oil mixture into the intake manifold. Me and a mechanic looked at it and after he connected a pressure tester to it we found that it was only getting 50psi while the other cylenders were getting 150psi each. Anyway my question is, were the engines in the Explorers similiar for several years? Because I am probably going to have to goto a junk yard and look for heads from any Explorer engines I might find and in case no one has a 93 engine I'm wondering that if the engine of a 92, 93, 94, etc were similiar or the same? Brad go to www.car-part.com and search for your year/model/engine heads, see what comes up. The results will include any other years/models, etc. that match. >Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Brad foctard why would they be diffrent hurc ast as usual, you give good advice hurc, you a.shole. now answer the mans question, or shut up and stop being a troll. > >Hello all, > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > hurc ast instead of wasting your money on a head you know nothing about, and most likely will have to go over anyway, you should just pull and get your existing head redone. > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Brad >Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Brad First, has your mechanic done a leakdown test on the cylinder to determine why the compression is low? If not, you may have a problem other than a bad valve like a flat cam lobe, a bent pushrod or a failed piston in which cases, your replacement head and the labor to install will be useless. If you confirm that the valve is the problem, your best bet is to have the head reconditioned. That way, you know you have the right parts and what you have to work with. Next option is to check your local salvage yard for a used head thatthey are willing to warranty. They have what is called a Hollanders Manual which will list all of the interchangeable heads and which vehicles should have them along with the correct casting numbers to look for. If the proble is determined to be other than the head, you may have to consider other options. For example, a bent pushrod would be a quick fix for under $30 in parts - unless, of course, the cause of that failure was a failed lifter. But, then, you have to depend on your mechanic friend to make the call. That's why you need a competent tech on occasion for the simplest of problems. Good luck Lugnut Thanks for the information. As for the mechanic and his capabilities, he's a friend of mine that I grew up with, just graduated from a college in Carlise, PA that specalizes in extremely high performance engines, bodywork, etc. Plus with my computer business I did his and his families computer work for free and he is going to be handling the labor for free on this as well. Basically all I would be paying for is a new head or any other parts needed. >>Hello all, >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Good luck > Lugnut >Thanks for the information. As for the mechanic and his capabilities, he's >a friend of mine that I grew up with, just graduated from a college in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >well. Basically all I would be paying for is a new head or any other parts >needed. Didn't mean to denigrate your friends mechanical ability. It is good that you have a longterm relationship with him such that you can properly take him to the woodshed when he screws up or buy him a cold one for a job well done. Just wanted to point out that a complete diagnosis should be made before the heavy tools are brought out and that you may have better more cost effective options than complete head replacement. I have seen used heads cause more trouble than they were worth or more than the ones they replace. A cylinder leak test is a very basic test that cam be accopmlished with nothing more than a plug hole adapter and an air hose. Once your are sure the cylinder is leaking, it is easy to listen in the intake, exhaust, and crankcase to determine where the air is going. If it not escaping in one or more of those directions, the problem may very well be a bent pushrod, collapsed lifter or flat cam lobe. All of these happen. Good luck Lugnut >>>Hello all, >>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> Good luck >> Lugnut We talked between doing those two things, letting him take out the head and taking it to a machine shop and letting them bore out the valve seat (if it's for sure the valve) and then press in a new valve seat and then he'd reinstall it for me. I'll pass along the info regarding the leak test and have him try that. We was at his garage the other evening where he had his tools. I was inside finishing up the computers while he was running tests on the explorer. > Didn't mean to denigrate your friends mechanical ability. It is good that > you have a longterm relationship with him [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Good luck > Lugnut > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tester to it we found that it was only getting 50psi while the other > cylenders were getting 150psi each. Sounds like he just did a compression test. How did he know it was a valve if that all he did? Did he do a cylinder leak down test with compressed air and listen for leaks? If he only did a compression test, i wonder how he thought it was the valves. Could be stuck rings or even a leaking head gasket. (or even a cracked head) If its truly the head, take it off and take it to a machine shop. chances are they can redo it and then your guaranteed that it will work since its the head that came off the motor. If you have a valve problem, they can only change out that bad valve. But i would have the rest of them checked and new seals put in while the head is off. If its too far off, you might as well do both heads. A GOOD machine shop will tell you what they recommend if you ask. Bob > Anyway my question is, were the engines in the Explorers similiar for > several years? Because I am probably going to have to goto a junk yard and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Brad |
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