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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / December 2005

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Lincoln Aviator Navigation System Modification

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fballman1985 - 25 Dec 2005 03:13 GMT
Does anyone have any idea how to modify the Ford navigation system so
that:
1.) the splash/intro screen telling you that you cannot type and drive
at the same time (and you must agree) no longer appears
2.) modify the system so I can type while driving

Thanks.
Jim Warman - 25 Dec 2005 04:13 GMT
What a great idea!!! That way you should know exactly where you are when you
cause that accident....

Make something idiot-proof and tey design better idiots..

> Does anyone have any idea how to modify the Ford navigation system so
> that:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thanks.
Jeremiah Greer - 26 Dec 2005 02:53 GMT
I hate to state the obvious, but he may not want to type on it while HE
is driving...what if there is a passenger in the car and he wants the
passenger to be able to type in an address while he is driving?  That
would be perfectly safe, and perhaps even more safe than pulling off to
the side of the road and having to risk pulling back into traffic.
Jim Warman - 26 Dec 2005 03:28 GMT
Without reading between the lines..... without putting words in anyones
mouth.... looking at this quote "2.) modify the system so I can type while
driving" in it's purest form..... it makes a statement... one statement....
I am not assuming anything other than this person has made the statement of
his/her choice.

The only thing worse than pulling an injured or lifeless child from a wreck
is having to do it at Christmas.... Drivers already succumb to far too many
distractions to add more to the mix.

>I hate to state the obvious, but he may not want to type on it while HE
> is driving...what if there is a passenger in the car and he wants the
> passenger to be able to type in an address while he is driving?  That
> would be perfectly safe, and perhaps even more safe than pulling off to
> the side of the road and having to risk pulling back into traffic.
Jeremiah Greer - 26 Dec 2005 16:45 GMT
Point taken.  He did say "I".  And I do agree, that the risks of the
driver using the system while driving merit the system having the
restriction in place.  I was just trying to point out one instance in
which the device could be used safely while the car was moving.

> Without reading between the lines..... without putting words in anyones
> mouth.... looking at this quote "2.) modify the system so I can type while
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > would be perfectly safe, and perhaps even more safe than pulling off to
> > the side of the road and having to risk pulling back into traffic.
Andrew Rossmann - 25 Dec 2005 13:42 GMT
> Does anyone have any idea how to modify the Ford navigation system so
> that:
> 1.) the splash/intro screen telling you that you cannot type and drive
> at the same time (and you must agree) no longer appears
> 2.) modify the system so I can type while driving

 Get somebody to hack the code out of the ROM, figure out how to modify
it, then figure out how to get it back into the nav system. Then keep
lawyers on retainer to protect you against the lawsuit when you run over
sombody while driving while distracted by typing.

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SC Tom - 26 Dec 2005 13:06 GMT
<<snip>> Then keep
> lawyers on retainer to protect you against the lawsuit when you run over
> sombody while driving while distracted by typing.

It seems that here in South Carolina, you CAN run over someone and get away
with it. Last month, a woman talking on her cell drifted off the road onto
the paved shoulder and struck a cyclist, killing her immediately. She later
said she WASN'T talking on her cell, and all she got was a ticket for
"Driving too fast for conditions." Another case a few months ago was when an
18 year old driving a pickup suddenly swerved across 4 lanes of traffic,
pinning another man against a guard rail in his own pickup. While trying to
cut the man out of the wreckage, he bled out before they could get to him.
The last I heard on the news or read in the paper, no charges were filed at
all- it was just an "unfortunate accident." I know a number of lawyers in
town (2 of them judges), and they all say the same thing- unless the person
is drunk or stoned, there's not a lot can be done against them. And 007 had
a license to kill? There's something bad wrong when someone can kill someone
else like that and get off with 2 points on there driving record.

SC Tom
SC Tom - 26 Dec 2005 15:52 GMT
> else like that and get off with 2 points on there driving record.

Excuse me, that should be "their driving record."

SC Tom
joe schmoe - 26 Dec 2005 18:08 GMT
><<snip>> Then keep
>> lawyers on retainer to protect you against the lawsuit when you run over
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>SC Tom

Only two points?  Surely you're forgetting the $50.00 Fine and
possible $100.00 yearly increase in their insurance.for 3-4 years  :-)

But seriously people (all of us) don't devote the attention to driving
that it merits.  Tell me you've never eaten while driving or looked at
something/someone off the road or even taken your eyes off the road to
adjust your HVAC / Radio?   Cars are Lethal tools and more people are
killed by their own stupidity than kill others with their stupidity.  

If I was this original poster and wanted to adjust a navigation system
while crossing the praries at 55MPH or stopped at a red light or in
traffic I would buy a pocket PC that offers that function and leave
OEM as is.  This would also allow them to be familiar with a system
that could be used in Rental vehicles.

I do believe the implications have been already covered in detail so I
won't touch those aspects
Jeremiah Greer - 27 Dec 2005 21:28 GMT
Driving while being incredibly sleepy is another real hazard.  I saw an
ad a while back for one of the european automakers who were making a
seat that vibrated the user briskly whenever it detected that someone's
head leaned forward to sleep.

> ><<snip>> Then keep
> >> lawyers on retainer to protect you against the lawsuit when you run over
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> I do believe the implications have been already covered in detail so I
> won't touch those aspects
Tom Adkins - 28 Dec 2005 03:59 GMT
> Driving while being incredibly sleepy is another real hazard.  I saw an
> ad a while back for one of the european automakers who were making a
> seat that vibrated the user briskly whenever it detected that someone's
> head leaned forward to sleep.

 Railroad locomotives in the US use a system similar to this. It monitors various
operator inputs (throttle, brake pressure, etc) and sounds an alarm if it doesn't
detect normal changes in the inputs.It gets progressively louder until the engineer
hits a button to signal that he is awake (or alive). If he doesn't respond, the system
will gradually slow the train to a stop. Not exectly what you would want in a car, but
the concept is the same.
SC Tom - 28 Dec 2005 12:36 GMT
>> Driving while being incredibly sleepy is another real hazard.  I saw an
>> ad a while back for one of the european automakers who were making a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the train to a stop. Not exectly what you would want in a car, but the
> concept is the same.

There was also, a while back, a device that fit over a driver's ear (similar
to a Bluetooth phone) that would sound an alarm if the driver's head leaned
forward more than a set angle. It was designed mainly for over-the-road
truckers, but I don't think I ever saw one in use. But now I guess the
wireless phones and wired headsets would get in the way of wearing one.

SC Tom
 
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