My folks have an 89 topaz, four cylender with air. First they tell me
that it was making a "howling" noise which turns out to have been the
power steering fluid- low. Added fluid, that fixed the howling. But the
car has been stalling, on right turns. I drove it for twenty minutes
today and couldn't get the thing to stall. A couple months ago they
complained that the engine was idling too slow, and tended to kill unless
they kept up on the peddle. I adjusted the idle speed and that seems to
have fixed that.
The steering and idle issues may be irrelevant but I mention them
because:
a) The low fluid in the steering may have caused a drag on the belt hence
dragging the rpms down.
b) Cranking the idle up may not have been the best way to address the
initial idle problem.
I thought this engine had a diagnostic computer that could be accessed
somehow i.e. flashing a code with the check engine light. Does anyone
know if it does have a computer, and how to get the codes out?
The check engine light has been on for quite some time, I suspect that
this is an O2 sensor but for some reason dad won't have that changed.
He's had it in the shop many times, but no one seems to address the
engine light issue for some reason. The car was not acting up originally
when the light was on so it could be a short in the light system, but...
Fuel pump has been replaced in the last two years
Fuel filter likewise.
Tune up last summer
Ignitiom module replaced last winter
Cooling fan motor, car is not overheating
I replaced all this stuff as it failed not because I was guessing at what
was causing the stalls.
Any idea's or info on the computer would be appreciated.
Paul.
Happy Traveler - 27 Feb 2006 00:54 GMT
Indeed, 'cranking up' the idle speed was not a good idea. In fuel injected
vehicles idle speed is computer controlled and not adjustable. I bet that it
even says so on the emissions sticker under the hood.
All you (or your dad's "mechanic") need to read the trouble codes is a paper
clip and a bit of knowledge.
Try googling for something like 'EEC IV Codes' or EEC IV Diagnostics'. Here
is one that I found in about 20 seconds:
http://www.off-road.com/ford/bigbroncos/tech/eec/
(this one is a Bronco site, so a few codes may have a slightly different
inerpretation, but it will get you close)
I would strongly recommend to whoever is attempting to repair this vehicle
to acquire a bit of knowledge instead of more parts. You could start with
Charles Probst's excellent "Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control
1988-1993", or even one of the Haynes manuals.
Good Luck
> Fuel pump has been replaced in the last two years
> Fuel filter likewise.
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> Paul.
Pdigmking - 27 Feb 2006 01:26 GMT
> Indeed, 'cranking up' the idle speed was not a good idea. In fuel
> injected vehicles idle speed is computer controlled and not
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> Electronic Engine Control 1988-1993", or even one of the Haynes
> manuals.
I've got the Chilton's manual.. very much useless. Any idea where the EEC
IV test port is in the 89 Topaz?
Thanks,
Paul.
Steve R. - 27 Feb 2006 06:13 GMT
>> Indeed, 'cranking up' the idle speed was not a good idea. In fuel
>> injected vehicles idle speed is computer controlled and not
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>
> Paul.
If it's like my 1988 Topaz, there are two sockets on the right hand side,
under the hood (Brit: bonnet).A Haynes manual will explain how to read the
codes with a multimeter.
Steve R.
Tom Adkins - 27 Feb 2006 11:52 GMT
> I've got the Chilton's manual.. very much useless. Any idea where the EEC
> IV test port is in the 89 Topaz?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul.
If I remember correctly it's near the right front strut tower. It should have a
cover on it that says EEC Test or something like that (Unless the cover was removed at
some point). Check out www.troublecodes.net They should have an illustration and
procedures for testing.