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messed up fuel line fitting at fuel filter

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HandymanBob@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2006 02:45 GMT
messed up fuel line fitting at fuel filter

I was trying to replace the fuel filter on my ford ranger 3.0. The fuel
filter is easy to access. The fuel line that comes from the output of
the fuel tank came off easily from the input of the fuel filter. I just
pulled off a little plastic keeper and the line came right off. The
output of the filter (going towards the engine)to the fuel line was
another story!

It's some kind of one way fitting, that I'm sure now, must require a
special tool to remove it. (I don't understand why one end comes off
easily and the other is attached in a more complicated way. Both ends
should have the same pressure. Anyway, I messed it up taking it off.

Any suggestions on how to fix this? Just hack off the ruined metal
fitting to where it's regular fuel line hose and then use a hose clamp?

I'm trying to understand what the purpose is of this special fitting.

thx!
Bob Urz - 12 Mar 2006 05:18 GMT
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> thx!

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bob
Bob - 12 Mar 2006 05:40 GMT
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> bob

Yup, that would have been the tool of choice. It's not going to do much good
now though.
                                  Bob
Jim Warman - 12 Mar 2006 05:20 GMT
Well, considering that these fuel systems operate in the 40 PSI range and
can, in some cases, dead head over 100 PSI...... a hose clamp would be about
enough to turn your truck into a ticking time bomb....

If, by some chance, you haven't destroyed the "bell" of the fitting, you
should be able to get a replacement retainer spring from your Ford dealer.

If the bell of the fitting is damaged, you may be able to find aftermarket
replacement fittings.... I can't vouch for them....

Why do so many people seem driven to destroy something before asking for
assistance?

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> thx!
HandymanBob@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2006 05:33 GMT
It's not clear to me why one end of the filter has a slip fit with a
plastic keeper but the other end is so robust. Seems like the pressure
would be the same on either side, no?
Jim Warman - 12 Mar 2006 07:07 GMT
Who knows what evil lurks in the heart and mind of an engineer.... Even on
the new ones we see a mix of line connections in any given system that can
only be described as "eclectic" (whatever that means... but I hear it a lot
on decorating shows).

Whether it is an electrical connector or a tubing connector..... if we are
unfamiliar with the design or function, we need to research it somehow. With
what we see on new vehicles, we yearn for the older connections featuring
the plastic "horseshoe" that slips inside slots in the bell. These were
rarely susceptible to problems from dirt inside the connection. Ford is
currently favouring two styles of fuel line connections.... both can collect
debris making it hard to separate the lines without time lost to cleaning
the fittings.

> It's not clear to me why one end of the filter has a slip fit with a
> plastic keeper but the other end is so robust. Seems like the pressure
> would be the same on either side, no?
SC Tom - 12 Mar 2006 14:16 GMT
> It's not clear to me why one end of the filter has a slip fit with a
> plastic keeper but the other end is so robust. Seems like the pressure
> would be the same on either side, no?

Not being an automotive engineer (if I was, I'd probably have to lie about
my job to keep from getting killed), I can only guess that the reason two
different fittings are used is to keep people from installing the filter
backwards. Don't know for sure, but seems plausible.

SC Tom
HandymanBob@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2006 15:40 GMT
The funny thing is (maybe not that funny...) is that both ends of the
fuel filter are identical. You could still put it on backwards and go
on your merry way!

I looked at the manual, and they are explicit about not using standard
fuel line. Only special teflon line and stainless steel.

I think I'm looking at a new line from ford (i bet $75) or if I can
find a wrecking yard with one...

> > It's not clear to me why one end of the filter has a slip fit with a
> > plastic keeper but the other end is so robust. Seems like the pressure
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> SC Tom
Jim Warman - 12 Mar 2006 18:02 GMT
handyman is quite right.... Ford has and does use several different styles
of line couplers.... three of them (sized for 8mm line)are very different in
design and function yet take the same filter nipple.

>> It's not clear to me why one end of the filter has a slip fit with a
>> plastic keeper but the other end is so robust. Seems like the pressure
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> SC Tom
Bob - 12 Mar 2006 05:44 GMT
A few weeks ago I had an older Bronco in with an intermittently sticking
regulator. When the regulator stuck closed the pressure would jump to right
at 150 PSI. He put up with that problem for quite some time..... I can't
believe he didn't kill the pump.
                                         Bob
> Well, considering that these fuel systems operate in the 40 PSI range and
> can, in some cases, dead head over 100 PSI...... a hose clamp would be
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>> thx!
Backyard Mechanic - 12 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT
> messed up fuel line fitting at fuel filter
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> output of the filter (going towards the engine)to the fuel line was
> another story!

One "handyman" to another, Bob.....

Comes a time in automotives when the generalist learns that you HAVE to
crawl out from under and make that trip to the Auto Parts store to get
the right tools.

Sorta like working on your car with nothing but Vise grips and a crescent
wrench... you wont get much satisfaction.

Why one side uses an external clip and the other an internal keeper is
beyond me, but it's not an accident.  Been that way for a long time.

Since these fittings have been universally used for the last 15
years.....

Also what you are likely to find at Autozone, etc are the nylon fitting
release 'bobbin-looking' tools on a holder bar.  They are a pita, but
with patience, they work ok.

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