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Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer

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Soul Bandit - 25 Mar 2006 02:57 GMT
I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
using it the next time (hopefully this week-end) I change my oil.  My 1991
Explorer has 69669.0 showing on the odometer and I plan on using Valvoline
5W-30 here in Austin Texas, any helpful comments?  Some one told me to add a
quart of Lucas to 4 quarts oil the next time I change it... comments? What
about using their Power Steering additive, fuel additive, and their
transmission  Fix fluid to help maintain my beloved Explorer?

Their web page is www.LucasOil.com if you might want to look at what they
have to offer...

Thanks for your honest opinion.

RobertBodling@yahoo.com
clare at snyder.on.ca - 25 Mar 2006 03:36 GMT
>I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
>to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
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>Thanks for your honest opinion.

Lots of people say additives are a waste of money or worse.
I dissagree. GOOD additives have their place, and I rate the Lucas
products as pretty durn good.
I use oil stabilizer after any time I flush an engine - which I do it
there is an oil consumption problem, or valve noise, as well as some
other issues.
I have also used it just as a preventative on older engines. It works.
And the nice thing is, it is a pure petroleum product.

Their PS conditioner and AT conditioner also seem to be pretty good
stuff.

Have not tried the fuel additive, so can't comment on that.

>RobertBodling@yahoo.com
Soul Bandit - 25 Mar 2006 04:45 GMT
Thanks Clare...

>>I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would
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> Thanks Clare...
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See: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
Jim Warman - 25 Mar 2006 05:07 GMT
When I was much younger and earning less than ideal wages, I tried many
different additives in many different places.... I was always sorely
disappointed. In the 30+ years I have plied my trade, I have (at times) sold
oil additives.... for no other reason than people asked for them.

Customers would picjk up a can, perue the side and ask the usual
questions... "Will this fix???????". The only ting I could offer was to
quote the producers money back gaurranty.

I often see "XXXX additive "fixed" my problem...." with absolutely nothing
in the way of info.

Is there a reason we feel we need to add something? Is there a tangeable
benefit?

It's your wallet and your car.... For my part, if I feel I need an additive,
I will look for a better lubricant.... If I need a repair, I wont look on
the "additives" shelf... If "mechanic in a can" worked, I'd be on
welfare....

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>>like
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clare at snyder.on.ca - 26 Mar 2006 06:51 GMT
>When I was much younger and earning less than ideal wages, I tried many
>different additives in many different places.... I was always sorely
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>the "additives" shelf... If "mechanic in a can" worked, I'd be on
>welfare....

No such thing as mechanic in a can - but SOMETIMES oil consumption is
caused buy stuck rings - and valve noise by sticky/dirty lifters.
SOMETIMES a good flush frees up the rings, or the lifters, solving the
immediate problem. An additive like Lucas CAN, in these instances,
help get the engine back to "normal", counteracting, to some extent,
the harshness of the flushing agent and helping prevent some of the
sometimes less-than-ideal side effects of the flush.

Another additive I have used, with excellent results, is BG 44k and BG
Supercharge, usually as a fuel additive for injector glitches and
combustion cleaner deposit problems, where the alternative is a very
pricy and time intensive dissassembly and mechanical/manual decoking.

Often it works. Sometimes it doesn't, but I've found it is almost
always worth a try.
Backyard Mechanic - 25 Mar 2006 03:37 GMT
> I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would
> like to know if any one out there has tried this product and would
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> RobertBodling@yahoo.com

"Someone", in my opinion, was WRONG

I have used both  Lucas AT and PS products with GREAT results .. but i
used them to fix a problem, not for prevention.

Until you have a PROBLEM, I dont recommned using them... because of the
way they work.

Evidently that explorer isnt driven much, or you just got it. If the
latter is the case, ESPECIALLY dont use additives until you find out what
your car's little problems are.

The only additive I would use in your case would be Redline's water
wetter... after you have a chance to eval the cooling system performance

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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Tom - 25 Mar 2006 10:48 GMT
I agree. lucas products are very good for what they are designed for , but
until you need them, they are a waste of money, and may end up doing more
harm than good.  if you have low oil pressure due to worn bearings, adding a
quart of lucas will get you a few years before you need to rebuild or junk
it.
lucas is a lubricant thickener, with additives to swell seals to stop
certain leaks. if you put it in a properly functioning and maintained
engine, you will only cause problems.
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> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!
Soul Bandit - 25 Mar 2006 14:51 GMT
What about their comment, "Eliminates dry starts and resist thermal
breakdown for total protection in new engines.", "Stops smoking, knocking,
and oil consumption in worn engines", "Will not void new car
warranties.","Raises oil pressure and adds lubricity for more M.P.G."
These claims made on their information flyers, are they like the notice you
see on a pack of cigarettes?

>I agree. lucas products are very good for what they are designed for , but
> until you need them, they are a waste of money, and may end up doing more
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>> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
>> you pay..DEAL with it!
Backyard Mechanic - 25 Mar 2006 15:17 GMT
> What about their comment, "Eliminates dry starts and resist thermal
> breakdown for total protection in new engines.", "Stops smoking,
> knocking, and oil consumption in worn engines", "Will not void new car
> warranties.","Raises oil pressure and adds lubricity for more M.P.G."
> These claims made on their information flyers, are they like the
> notice you see on a pack of cigarettes?

Those mean they also have a marketing dept.  

Take them at face value... if you want to add those products, fine.  But
take "resists thermal breakdown", for example:  
Mobil 1 truly does that and the effects are more far-reaching than you'd
think.

Again... I've found that the products are an alternative to mechanical
repair at the end of a systems's life.  And they actually work.

But so do various medicines taken by geriatrics to resolve human aging
symptoms.   That doesnt mean a healthy person should take them.

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fireater - 25 Mar 2006 16:32 GMT
> I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
> to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
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> RobertBodling@yahoo.com

by the way its texas .... its not cold there why are you using 5w-30...
i dont care what the book says i would use something a bit better like
10w30 or even 10w40...possibly switch to synthetic if you want at that
mileage it would be a great idea (as long as there are no major oil
leaks cause adding a quart of synthetic every 500 miles could get
expensive) and if you have looked after the engine with lots of oil
changes 69000 miles is not that many....
Michael - 26 Mar 2006 18:24 GMT
>I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
>to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
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>What about using their Power Steering additive, fuel additive, and their
>transmission  Fix fluid to help maintain my beloved Explorer?

Unless your "beloved" Explorer has oil consumption problems or low oil
pressure, stay away from the stuff.  I would never put it in an engine I
actually cared about.  I've used Lucas Oil Stabilizer in cars that were on
their last legs and not worth putting much money into and the stuff
definitely buys time. But, I must say if you put a whole quart in, the next
time you change oil be ready to go to lunch while the crankcase drains.
Lucas really thickens up the oil.  If you are concerned about dry starts,
switch to a good synthetic.
I do use the Lucas power steering additive for rack and pinion steering and
it seems to work well to quiet older racks and, so far, doesn't seem to have
a downside.

mike
clare at snyder.on.ca - 26 Mar 2006 21:45 GMT
>>I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
>>to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
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>
>mike

What I like about the oil stabilizer is it cleans up and conditions
the lips of oil seals, and tends to extend the life of things like
valve seals - particularly after a flush. As for thickening the oil, I
ALWAYS drain my oil at operating temperature - and it drains very well
that way. Dry starts are also not dry when lubrication clings to the
surface.And although it is "thicker" it also seems to creep fairly
well.
Joe Kulik - 30 Mar 2006 17:57 GMT
I've been lucas additives for years. The p/s & tranny stuff is great for
tired parts, so I've never had any qualms about  using it in low mileage
stuff. good luck
> >I purchased me a bottle of "Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer" and would like
> >to know if any one out there has tried this product and would recommend my
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> mike
Happy Traveler - 26 Mar 2006 22:57 GMT
If the Explorer had 69669.7 miles, I would definitely drop a quart of snake
oil in it. Perhaps even install a pair of those magnetic
polyolefin-molecular-chain- twisters that improve fuel consumption by 25%.
But at just 69669.0? No way!

Heck, it's a dreary Sunday here. Thanks for the opportunity for a chuckle!

> My 1991 Explorer has 69669.0 showing on the odometer and I plan on using
Valvoline
> 5W-30 here in Austin Texas, any helpful comments?  Some one told me to add a
> quart of Lucas to 4 quarts oil the next time I change it...
rudyxhiebert@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2006 05:23 GMT
I'd use it in my 'Ol Faithful FarmAll-A tractor to haul the feed around
the ranch. When, not if - it died, I could always use it to fill a hole
in the dyke and get another one.
 
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