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2000 Ford Expedition Engine Fire Pictures

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Paul79UF - 12 Apr 2006 06:32 GMT
My 2000 Ford Expedition suffered an engine fire due to the faulty
cruise control deactivation device that shorted and ignited the master
brake cylinder.

To see my pictures of my totalled SUV click on the link below. :(

http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Ford-Expedition-Engine-Fire/index.html
Backyard Mechanic - 12 Apr 2006 14:16 GMT
> http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Ford-Expedition-Engine-Fire/index.html

Interesting:

Presence of Mind -
"Before the tow truck arrived, my buddies helped me remove the tow bar &
ball, my Rockford Fosgate subwoofer amplifiers and the 800 watt ac/dc power
inverter that were under the second row of seats."  
- When guy heard of fire, wonder if he flashed on maybe the cabin was
burning?

Questionable Presence of Mind -
"My friend who had borrowed the car earlier in the day used to be a
volunteer firefighter so he quickly grabbed the garden hose and doused the
flames with as much water as possible."
- Trained Semi-Professional: 'Do not attempt!'

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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

sleepdog@optonline.net - 12 Apr 2006 19:22 GMT
>> Questionable Presence of Mind -
>> "My friend who had borrowed the car earlier in the day used to be a
>> volunteer firefighter so he quickly grabbed the garden hose and doused the
>> flames with as much water as possible."

When I was 12 I learned an important lesson about adding water to a
gasoline fire.  Assuming there was gasoline on fire in this case...
Mike Hunter - 12 Apr 2006 23:15 GMT
He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)

>>> Questionable Presence of Mind -
>>> "My friend who had borrowed the car earlier in the day used to be a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> When I was 12 I learned an important lesson about adding water to a
> gasoline fire.  Assuming there was gasoline on fire in this case...
Jeff - 12 Apr 2006 23:33 GMT
> He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)

It really helps if one doesn't top post. Makes it real hard to follow the
thread.

The professional fire fighters use water on car fires. Ever notice all the
hoses around during a car fire?

Jeff

>>>> Questionable Presence of Mind -
>>>> "My friend who had borrowed the car earlier in the day used to be a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> When I was 12 I learned an important lesson about adding water to a
>> gasoline fire.  Assuming there was gasoline on fire in this case...
fireater - 13 Apr 2006 02:03 GMT
>> He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>> When I was 12 I learned an important lesson about adding water to a
>>> gasoline fire.  Assuming there was gasoline on fire in this case...

yep they do unless its real bad then comes out the chemical fire
retardant.  Keep in mind they have big hoses
Eric G - 13 Apr 2006 09:37 GMT
>>> He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)
>>
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> yep they do unless its real bad then comes out the chemical fire
> retardant.  Keep in mind they have big hoses

FWIW, The terms should be "paid firefighter" or "volunteer firefigher".
Since the early '80s, I've known and trained with many firefighters, some of
which are firefighters by profession, and they get paid to do what I and
many thousands across America do as a volunteer.  Some firefighters who are
paid for their service do not do so as professionally as some of the
volunteers I've spent time with, and just because I collect a paycheck to
work in the telecom industry, doesn't mean that I am any less professional
as a firefighter just because I do so as a volunteer.

While it is true that water has issues when put on a burning puddle of
liquid, one should not discount the garden hose as a usable tool for saving
property.  THIS volunteer firefighter used a garden hose to save the
neighbor's house from burning down when the rubber propane hose on his
grille (sitting on his side porch) failed and caused the wood siding as well
as the lattice trim to ignite.  As to the chemical fire retardant, from the
'80's till the most recent pumper purchase (2005), the department I ran with
didn't have any means of using (let alone having) such a thing, other than
calling in a not real close mutual aid company.  For a vehicle fire,
protocol would include a standard ABC fire extinguisher, albeit larger than
a standard homeowner's version.  However, when that runs out, firefighters
(regardless of pay status) can't just stand around doing nothing.
Backyard Mechanic - 13 Apr 2006 16:14 GMT
Summary:   If you have underhood fire, garden hose is fine but use close
as you can to mist or fog.. NOT solid stream. Use thumb as spray
deflector/valve if necessary.

And I aint a trained firefighter.  Just have some common sense.

>>>> He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)
>>>
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> homeowner's version.  However, when that runs out, firefighters
> (regardless of pay status) can't just stand around doing nothing.

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Mike Hunter - 13 Apr 2006 22:16 GMT
Not as long as they have an 1 1/2 hooked to a 3,000 gallon pumper, or a foam
generator on site.   LOL

mike hunt

>>>> He didn't say he was a PROFESSIONAL firefighter.  ;)
> FWIW, The terms should be "paid firefighter" or "volunteer firefigher".
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> firefighters (regardless of pay status) can't just stand around doing
> nothing.
Paul79UF - 13 Apr 2006 03:47 GMT
The fire was not a gasoline fire. The cruise control switch shorted out
and ignited the master brake cylinder.

The rubber, plastic and aluminum under the hood was on fire.

Backyard Mechanic - That's an excellent sense of skepticism that you
have there. Sorry to disappoint you but I didn't set my own vehicle on
fire.
Backyard Mechanic - 13 Apr 2006 16:08 GMT
> The fire was not a gasoline fire. The cruise control switch shorted out
> and ignited the master brake cylinder.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> have there. Sorry to disappoint you but I didn't set my own vehicle on
> fire.

Not what I meant... point was, I aint a trained firefighter but I would
have grabbed the garden hose...

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Paul79UF - 13 Apr 2006 17:04 GMT
Ah, sorry.

I remember that the "real" firefighters who arrived on the scene told
my friend that he should have been careful of the front bumper
springing off due to the heat. But they didn't mention anything about
his methods with the garden hose. *shrug*
 
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