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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Cars / April 2006

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brake problems now!!!!!

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robert -wanda fox - 22 Apr 2006 16:13 GMT
it's one thing after another lately now!!first  it won't pass emissions(o2
sensor,egr likely)now whats going on is of course something in all my years
of cars has never happened before(it figures) maybe someone can help or give
me an idea please,thanks        (92 merc. grand marquis-4.6)

there seems to be vibration and buzzing sound coming from appears to be my
master cylinder or area within,but it's intermintent,maybe a few times every
hour or so,at times also the anti-lock brake light will also flash a few
seconds,at the time this sound and vibration happens(useally just a few
seconds at a time)the brakes lock up and get hard and vibrate,the brake
peddle will useally feel like it's being forced up, qquestion?besides of
course knowing what's going on,is there a problem of maybe the brakes going
all the way out??a friend told me it was possible that the master cylinder
was the culprit,maybe a collapsed brake line,then a buddy who was a parts
man at a dealership said something to the fact that there was some kind of
brake module under or around the master that could be the culprit.  any
ideas   thanks       bob
ShoeSaleman - 22 Apr 2006 16:43 GMT
> it's one thing after another lately now!!first  it won't pass emissions(o2
> sensor,egr likely)now whats going on is of course something in all my years
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> brake module under or around the master that could be the culprit.  any
> ideas   thanks       bob

Its your ABS screwing up. You need to read the ABS codes and that will
tell you what the problem is. My guess is it does this when you brake at
times, the light comes on and then it stops and won't do it for the rest
of the trip....?.... It is very likely a wheels sensor is bad or very
dirty and it stops seeing the wheels turn so it thinks its locked up so
the abs kicks in.....that kind of thing...bottom line, get the ABS codes
read.....
MarshMonster - 22 Apr 2006 20:06 GMT
> > it's one thing after another lately now!!first  it won't pass emissions(o2
> > sensor,egr likely)now whats going on is of course something in all my years
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> the abs kicks in.....that kind of thing...bottom line, get the ABS codes
> read.....

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I agree with Shoe....git yer brakes checked.  This is not a friendly
DIY'r area
of repair.

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MarshMonster
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robert -wanda fox - 22 Apr 2006 23:04 GMT
thanks a lot for the advice,i also received some info from a brakes man and
yes indeed it is involving the ABS  system,fortunally you don't really need
ABS on the braking system,so i did disconnect it for now,and the problem
went away for now,i do plan though to over the summer get the code(s) read
and if be get the problem fixed.   i see that the test connector under the
hood has three wires  to it,is there a way for me to read the codes,a buddy
told me of a way (jumping the orange wire,grounding it,and reading the
flashes of the "anti-lock"light) any ideas??? again thanks again for all the
help and advice.   bob
> > it's one thing after another lately now!!first  it won't pass emissions(o2
> > sensor,egr likely)now whats going on is of course something in all my years
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> the abs kicks in.....that kind of thing...bottom line, get the ABS codes
> read.....
ShoeSaleman - 23 Apr 2006 17:52 GMT
> thanks a lot for the advice,i also received some info from a brakes man and
> yes indeed it is involving the ABS  system,fortunally you don't really need
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> flashes of the "anti-lock"light) any ideas??? again thanks again for all the
> help and advice.   bob

I don't know how off hand how to get the light to tell you the code (I
always used a scan tool). Yes you are correct, if the abs light is on,
the system is disabled and the brakes work as if you have no ABS. I
would not ground or jump anything under the hood unless I knew for sure
what it was for. (Some electrical parts are very expensive, including
ABS modules.

>>>it's one thing after another lately now!!first  it won't pass
>
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>the abs kicks in.....that kind of thing...bottom line, get the ABS codes
>>read.....
MarshMonster - 25 Apr 2006 04:41 GMT
> I don't know how off hand how to get the light to tell you the code (I
> always used a scan tool). Yes you are correct, if the abs light is on,
> the system is disabled and the brakes work as if you have no ABS. I
> would not ground or jump anything under the hood unless I knew for sure
> what it was for. (Some electrical parts are very expensive, including
> ABS modules.

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what Shoe said, ditto.

AllData is saying that you have to use a scanner on that model/year.

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