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shogun64 - 18 Jun 2006 01:47 GMT
i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
parts i dont need to? when started cold it revs up then down till it
finds right rpm. but when hot, i keep a fast idle. i want to fix it
before i lose a ujoint as it jumps in gear. please help.
Backyard Mechanic - 18 Jun 2006 16:04 GMT
> i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
> changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
> parts i dont need to? when started cold it revs up then down till it
> finds right rpm. but when hot, i keep a fast idle. i want to fix it
> before i lose a ujoint as it jumps in gear. please help.

First:
Make sure the PCV system is in good shape, including the oil-separator
screen below the PCV valve hole.
now to troubleshoot:
Then get engine warmed up and disconnect/plug all vacuum ports on intake
EXCEPT the fuel pressure reg.

Then stop, disconnect IAC harness, start and check that engine idle is
about 500-550 rpm. If above that or still fast idle, you either have a
vacuum leak or someone has messed with the stop screw.. but if cold idle
is good, I doubt either

I suspect, if idle is good (lower than 650) with IAC plug disc; and the
Check engine Light comes on with key on, then goes out, and doesnt show
with engine running, you may have a bad Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) -
or wiring to it. Bad TPS doesnt set the CEL in EECIV (or most of them,
anyway).

If it is still the adjustable version you need borrow a DVM and set it to
.90 to .99 volts with the throttle on the stop screw.

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shogun64 - 18 Jun 2006 17:16 GMT
> > i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
> > changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
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> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!
shogun64 - 18 Jun 2006 17:22 GMT
caint find a pvc valve. i got a hose coming from the valve cover
straight to trottle body.

> > > i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
> > > changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> > you pay..DEAL with it!
Backyard Mechanic - 18 Jun 2006 18:37 GMT
> caint find a pvc valve. i got a hose coming from the valve cover
> straight to trottle body.

Unless it's a weird setup and the PCV is in Valve cover and that hose goes
to intake between TB and valves, it's there... back of engine, into cam
valley.

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Sharon K. Cooke - 18 Jun 2006 23:23 GMT
> caint find a pvc valve. i got a hose coming from the valve cover
> straight to trottle body.
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> > > Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> > > you pay..DEAL with it!

The PCV valve: http://markvii.homestead.com/pcv.html
shogun64 - 23 Jun 2006 21:57 GMT
thanks for the picture

> > caint find a pvc valve. i got a hose coming from the valve cover
> > straight to trottle body.
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>
> The PCV valve: http://markvii.homestead.com/pcv.html
lugnut - 24 Jun 2006 01:43 GMT
>i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
>changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
>parts i dont need to? when started cold it revs up then down till it
>finds right rpm. but when hot, i keep a fast idle. i want to fix it
>before i lose a ujoint as it jumps in gear. please help.

BYM's procedure doesn't find it, you may have a leak between
the upper and lower intake.  Problem was mostly in trucks
but , not unheard of in cars.

Lugnut
shogun64 - 28 Jun 2006 21:38 GMT
lugnut, i think your on to something. ive been noticing that when i
turn on my heater which is vacum  controlled they keep opening and
closing. could that be related?

> >i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
> >changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
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>
> Lugnut
lugnut - 29 Jun 2006 04:17 GMT
>lugnut, i think your on to something. ive been noticing that when i
>turn on my heater which is vacum  controlled they keep opening and
>closing. could that be related?

Not likely that the intake problem would/could cause that.
You either have a bad vacuum check valve or a vacuum leak in
the hvac.  This is beyond the manifold.  If you have a large
leak in the hvac control, it could result in high idle.  

>> >i have a 88 cougar with a 302 in it my problem ia s fast idle. i
>> >changed the iac but still fast idle. any ideas so i wont keep replacing
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>> Lugnut
 
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