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Where did all the chrome go... New vehicles seldom have any chrome on them, the trucks at least still have some chrome on the bumpers... but we are in a serious lack of chrome here... Is there any particular reason for this? >Where did all the chrome go... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Is there any particular reason for this? weight, aesthetics, cost....??? it just doesn't adhere to plastic too well. And the "chrome" that does looks cheap. -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg > Where did all the chrome go... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is there any particular reason for this? To downplay the whorish white trash appeal? >> Where did all the chrome go... >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > To downplay the whorish white trash appeal? White trash? hmm.. seems to me the term 'bling bling' originated in the rap community - check out some rappers cars/suvs -- all chrome.. all over... > >> Where did all the chrome go... > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > White trash? hmm.. seems to me the term 'bling bling' originated in the rap > community - check out some rappers cars/suvs -- all chrome.. all over... I don't believe in insulting an ethnic group unless I'm a member of it, which is why I made the dig at the white trash community. Also I didn't know there were any rappers back in the 1950s, the era of maximum chrome. >> >> Where did all the chrome go... >> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > didn't know there were any rappers back in the 1950s, the era of > maximum chrome. The era of chrome was reborn in the late 90s. I think the 50s chrome was more middle class anyway. But I do see your point. > Dan J.S. wrote: >>> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >The era of chrome was reborn in the late 90s. I think the 50s chrome was >more middle class anyway. But I do see your point. Chrome resists damage from gravel roads much better than brittle enamel paints. Paved roads, much better paints, plastic panels, flex agents in paints = much less "need" for chrome. "A Bit" of chrome adds a touch of class, a lot adds a touch of crass. 99-03 Windstars chrome accents, good sales, 04-present Freestars virtually no chrome and a corresponding # of sales. Cars are clothing & people that buy new cars want their cars to make them look good. A Bland Average car says the owner is Bland & average. 1990's Taurus revolutionary (good sales) 06 Taurus Bland, (poor retail sales). Sadly the US Car company's are dominated by Accountants and Risk Managers instead of racers and show off's. The world wants 57 T-Birds & 67 Mustangs, 59 Cadillac's. Instead they give us Focus, Fusion, Five Hund~erd's. No Wonder they're F*d  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com you can thank the EPA for the demise of real chrome: the plating process produces noxious fumes and waste making it impractical (and that's why rechroming the bits on an old car costs a fortune). Likewise, the car companies haven't done us any favor with water-based paint that they attempt to preserve for a while with an inpermanent clear coat......the old enamels and lacquers painting processes gave off too many fumes to meet EPA emission standards, so we have "improved" paint jobs that look shiney - until they peel off. by the mid-50s, most "chrome" grill work was really aluminum and better cars had real stainless steel trim.......very maintenance free and you didn't have to worry about a butterfly doing $850 worth of damage to the painted nose of your car....just wash the bugs off. for a while we had flash-chromed plastic.....have always wondered how they managed to make plastic chrome pit just like potmetal! > you can thank the EPA for the demise of real chrome: the plating > process produces noxious fumes and waste making it impractical (and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > too many fumes to meet EPA emission standards, so we have "improved" > paint jobs that look shiney - until they peel off. It is not the EPA that makes the laws. It is Congress. What would you prefer? A nice shiney chrome job or healthy lungs? I like my lungs more than my car. Jeff >> you can thank the EPA for the demise of real chrome: the plating >> process produces noxious fumes and waste making it impractical (and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeff Congress has no idea what the EPA is doing. They lost control long ago. You can have your lungs and the chrome, just wear protective clothing. > >> you can thank the EPA for the demise of real chrome: the plating > >> process produces noxious fumes and waste making it impractical (and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ago. You can have your lungs and the chrome, just wear protective > clothing. And everyone down wind, or that uses water from wells or fishes or will use the property after they are gone. SignatureI. Care Address fake until the SPAM goes away ;-} > The era of chrome was reborn in the late 90s. I think the 50s chrome > was more middle class anyway. But I do see your point. Up until THESE abominations: http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2000/boc_2000/buic5801.JPG http://www.geocities.com/cusslersrealm/Cars/58_oldsmobile_98.jpg At which time the solid middle class got tired of seeing some people, esp teens like me, discreetly turn to the side and vomit as they drove by. Now, do a google image search for 59 buick and olds SignatureYeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! >> The era of chrome was reborn in the late 90s. I think the 50s chrome >> was more middle class anyway. But I do see your point. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Now, do a google image search for 59 buick and olds Abomination? I'll have you know, suh, I was just barely out of my teens when this was taken at the GA/FLA border on my way to NAS Jaxsonville. That wonderful Supah 88 defined the term "land yacht:" Hmmmph! I dunno..... it may have to do with the "if it don't go, chrome it..." syndrome.... While "chrome" may have been de rigeur in 1958, it is currently a tad gaudy.... especially on trucks with the requisite chrome things that serve no purpose. > Where did all the chrome go... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is there any particular reason for this? >Where did all the chrome go... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Is there any particular reason for this? I believe the EPA had a hand in the disappearance of chrome-plated anythings. Chrome plating suppliers these days must adhere to a strict regimen of standards and practices regarding the process, such as chemical storage, disposal, etc. that translates to an enormous expense that they're not willing to incur. Or, if they've passed on these expenses to their customers, the customers are not willing to eat them. > I believe the EPA had a hand in the disappearance of chrome-plated anythings. > Chrome plating suppliers these days must adhere to a strict regimen of standards > and practices regarding the process, such as chemical storage, disposal, etc. > that translates to an enormous expense that they're not willing to incur. Or, > if they've passed on these expenses to their customers, the customers are not > willing to eat them. I do remember a chrome plating shop that did have a lot of EPA paperwork. Also, if my 20 year old information has any truth to it yet, most chromium comes from Rhodesia and like most backward countries, they are only happy if they have a civil war going on and all manufactured goods have been disrupted. >> I believe the EPA had a hand in the disappearance of chrome-plated anythings. >> Chrome plating suppliers these days must adhere to a strict regimen of standards [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >only happy if they have a civil war going on and all manufactured goods >have been disrupted. Rhodesia hasn't existed for how many years now???? Zimbabwe now. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com clare wrote: > Rhodesia hasn't existed for how many years now???? Zimbabwe now. Like I said, 20+ years ago. Still is about the only place that chromium is mined. >clare wrote: > >> Rhodesia hasn't existed for how many years now???? Zimbabwe now. > >Like I said, 20+ years ago. Still is about the only place that chromium >is mined. Chromium is mined in the Canadian Shield, New Caledonia (in the south Pacific), South Africa, Albania, Brazil, China, Cuba, finland, Greece, India, Indonesia, Japan, Iran, Madagascar, Morrocco, pakistan, the Philipines, Turkey, Russia, VietNam, and Yugoslavia. Russia, Albania, and South Africa are the largest producers. Canada's output is very low. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com <Moderate snip> > Chromium is mined in the Canadian Shield, New Caledonia (in the south > Pacific), South Africa, Albania, Brazil, China, Cuba, finland, Greece, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Russia, Albania, and South Africa are the largest producers. > Canada's output is very low. <Small snip> A small bottle of Chromic acid crystals was quite expensive a few years ago, here on the left coast! It fizzes like pop during plating, and will burn out the mucous membranes in your nose if any is inhaled. Steve R. On the West Coast of Vancouver Island. ><Moderate snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve R. On the West Coast of Vancouver Island. That's why I stuck with snorting Fizzies, Pop Rocks and Alka Seltzer :0) -- Spike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg It's ugly. And automakers now paint things like bumpers to match the color of the car. >It's ugly. > >And automakers now paint things like bumpers to match the color of the >car. that is not the bumper. valance and it merely cover the energy absorber, plastic honycomb and syrofoam. the passenger compartment or coffin is really, hopefully not an energy absorber from the firewall forward and the backseat cusion to the trunk lock those are the "bumper" areas. oh yes you are safe but wait you disabled the seat belt waring buzzer and that air bag is coming at you really really fast but the seat belt is neatly coil up and snap goes the weasel NHTSA standard and cost, WBMG mike > Where did all the chrome go... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is there any particular reason for this? |
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