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GM Sputters In U.S., Hits Throttle Abroad

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Jim Higgins - 20 Jul 2009 21:28 GMT
Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent

GM Sputters In U.S., Hits Throttle Abroad
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106734155

All Things Considered, July 20, 2009 · General Motors, once the world's
largest automaker, has had a rough few months. In June, the company
filed for bankruptcy. Last week, as part of a massive restructuring
plan, 60 percent of the company's ownership shifted to U.S. taxpayers.

However, the news isn't all doom and gloom for the U.S. auto giant. Many
of the company's international operations are posting strong gains. In
China, GM's second-largest market, sales jumped to 814,442 units in the
first half of 2009 from 590,132 during the same period in 2008 — an
increase of 38 percent. And in Latin America, seven countries set GM
sales records in 2008.

Strong Market Share In Ecuador

A recent morning at Mirasol, the main GM dealership in Ecuador's
southern city of Cuenca, was busy. Saleswoman Marianna Moreno spent
hours at the entrance of the showroom, greeting people and fielding
questions. Customers thumbed through glossy brochures and listen
intently to sales pitches.

Outside, Luz Santandero looked over a Chevy pickup. She traveled almost
two hours by bus to check out this particular truck.

"I've never had a car, but my husband wants one. And I think he's gotten
good recommendations about the car, the brand, everything," Santandero says.

She says Chevy is by far the most popular truck where she lives and adds
that she is not even considering another brand.

Mirasol is one of Ecuador's most successful GM dealers and one of a
handful that has helped GM maintain a strong presence in the country.
GM's market share in Ecuador is currently about 44 percent, the highest
of any country in the world.

Last year was Mirasol's best in history, says Pedro Torres, the
dealership's general manager. In 2008, sales grew 35 percent to $53
million, compared to $39 million the previous year.

"If we can repeat that in 2009, we'll be great," he says. Torres reports
that, so far, his 2009 sales are up slightly, about 3 percent. As of
June, the dealership has sold 1,322 units, compared to 1,274 units
during the same period last year.

Brand Recognition, Price Key Factors

Several factors contribute to the success of operations such as GM
Ecuador. First, Chevrolet — the most common GM vehicle in the country —
has remarkable brand recognition, due in part to the fact that GM has
had a presence here since the 1920s.

Price is another key factor, says economist Marcelo Vazquez, chairman of
the economics department at the University of Cuenca. The majority of GM
vehicles sold in Ecuador are in fact GM in name only. Many are assembled
here, and the parts are either imported from Asia or made domestically.
This gives GM an edge, he says.

"That fact means that you can count on the vehicles being affordable —
which is the secret to the company's success — and relatively cheap in
the local market, which has led to considerable growth in demand," he
explains.

In January, the Ecuadorian government introduced a new set of import
restrictions, including steep tariffs on cars. But GM, with its
Ecuador-based assembly plant and parts production, remained relatively
unaffected. In fact, the restrictions have allowed GM dealers to
maintain lower prices at a time when imported cars are only getting more
expensive.

Cautious Optimism About GM's Future

But GM's uncertain future is a concern for some. In the parking lot of
Supermaxi, one of Cuenca's biggest grocery stores, Andres Pena stands
near his new Chevrolet Grand Vitara, the fourth Chevy he's owned.

"My car is the Chevrolet for life," he says, adding that if Chevrolet
were to disappear, he would be the first to wear black.

For his part, Torres, Mirasol's general manager, is circumspect. Given
GM's uncertain future, he admits his business could change overnight.

Like many others in the industry, Torres will be closely watching
General Motors as it transitions to its new life But there is a hint of
optimism in his voice.

"We're seeing a new General Motors without debt, with money, with new
ideas to work on, so let's see what they can do," he says.

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Canuck57 - 21 Jul 2009 00:32 GMT
> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent

And they will never do well at home after shafting the taxpayers.  They
might have to wait a whole generation to see some brand recovery on this
issue.

Maybe the foriegn non-union with different management parts of Government
Motors can subsidise the NA taxpayers?  LMAO.

> GM Sputters In U.S., Hits Throttle Abroad
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106734155
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> "We're seeing a new General Motors without debt, with money, with new
> ideas to work on, so let's see what they can do," he says.
Mike Marlow - 21 Jul 2009 05:26 GMT
>> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent
>
> And they will never do well at home after shafting the taxpayers.  They
> might have to wait a whole generation to see some brand recovery on this
> issue.

Not so sure about that.  There are many people who really liked GM vehicles
and who today, just want to see the signs of change within GM with respect
to the way they care about their customers.  There has always been a lot of
for GM to be proud of in the vehicles they produced - not just the shameful
things they did.  I believe the American public would like to trust in GM
again, and might indeed, as long as they see some marked changes in a few
critical areas.

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mmarlowREMOVE@windstream.net

Canuck57 - 21 Jul 2009 13:17 GMT
>>> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent
>>
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> like to trust in GM again, and might indeed, as long as they see some
> marked changes in a few critical areas.

I don't doubt you are right, many would buy a GM despite their taxpicking
their pockets.  GM is at a cross roads where they need to do or die, they
need to take the attitude that they need to try like never before in the
history of auto.  Take Lutz, still with GM, was part of the problem and
still talks with no delivery.  Waste that needs cutting.

GM is destined to stay as Government Motors Give Money Quietly (GMGMQ).
Mike - 21 Jul 2009 16:06 GMT
But, but, but we all heard you say months ago that GM would be gone by now.
When will you admit tour were wrong and have no idea what the hell you are
talking about?    LOL

>>>> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent
>>>
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>
> GM is destined to stay as Government Motors Give Money Quietly (GMGMQ).
Canuck57 - 22 Jul 2009 00:54 GMT
> But, but, but we all heard you say months ago that GM would be gone by
> now. When will you admit tour were wrong and have no idea what the hell
> you are talking about?    LOL

Hey, give me $100T and I am sure we could keep a a freshly killed rat alive.

GM (General Motors) is dead, history.  Gone.  They are now GM Old, an empty
bankrupt husk of nothing.

Replaced by GMGMQ, Good-bye Money Government Motors insolvant (Q).

GM (New) is still losing money, and with a sub-zero credit rating and
angry/suckered bond holders do you think GM (New) could borrow $50 from the
markets or banks?  Now that the influencial and supper rich have an influx
of $100T of taxpayers cash to bail them out, do you think anyone is going to
be dumb enough to invest in GM (New or Old) when the recent $20B runs out???

Bailout Obama (BO) sold out taxpayers for talk a lot BS and a back room pat
on the shoulder.  2010 isn't that far away now, bailouts are going to get a
lot harder as some senators and congress people have to face an angry
consituancies, 98% that have squat to do with auto.  And the fact remains,
most people don't support this corruption.

Talk a lot Obama better factor in 2010... but he will make excuses....

>>>>> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent
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>>
>> GM is destined to stay as Government Motors Give Money Quietly (GMGMQ).
John S. - 22 Jul 2009 16:20 GMT
> > But, but, but we all heard you say months ago that GM would be gone by
> > now. When will you admit tour were wrong and have no idea what the hell
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> >> GM is destined to stay as Government Motors Give Money Quietly (GMGMQ).

I LOVE MY NEW CAMARO!!!!! WOOHOO!!!
Mike - 21 Jul 2009 16:07 GMT
>> Kinda reinforces the fact that GM US Management is totally incompetent
>
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>> "We're seeing a new General Motors without debt, with money, with new
>> ideas to work on, so let's see what they can do," he says.
 
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